Re: Exit walsender before confirming remote flush in logical replication

From: Fujii Masao <masao(dot)fujii(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Andrey Silitskiy <a(dot)silitskiy(at)postgrespro(dot)ru>
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Subject: Re: Exit walsender before confirming remote flush in logical replication
Date: 2025-11-19 11:46:25
Message-ID: CAHGQGwEnb0-tZG8K2mVSbjzJ=Z_VFbjAypO+fYm0t1ZXaxbr0A@mail.gmail.com
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On Tue, Nov 18, 2025 at 7:32 PM Andrey Silitskiy
<a(dot)silitskiy(at)postgrespro(dot)ru> wrote:
>
> Dear pgsql-hackers,
>
> I am also interested in solving this problem, so I suggest a patch which
> is based on Hayato's work shared earlier.

+1
Thanks for the patch!

+{ name => 'logical_wal_sender_shutdown_mode', type => 'enum', context
=> 'PGC_SIGHUP', group => 'REPLICATION_SENDING',

How about using PGC_USERSET instead of PGC_SIGHUP, similar to
wal_sender_timeout?
That would allow setting logical_wal_sender_shutdown_mode per walsender
by assigning it to the logical replication user on the publisher and specifying
that user in the CONNECTION clause of CREATE SUBSCRIPTION command. For example:

# publisher
=# ALTER ROLE testuser SET logical_wal_sender_shutdown_mode TO 'immediate';

# subscriber
=# CREATE SUBSCRIPTION ... CONNECTION '... user=testuser' ...;

Even if the publisher's postgresql.conf sets logical_wal_sender_shutdown_mode to
'wait_flush', the per-role setting would take effect for that connection.
This gives users per-connection control, just like with parameters such as
wal_sender_timeout.

Also if the patch I proposed in [1] is committed, the same per-connection
control could be done directly via CREATE SUBSCRIPTION:

# subscriber
=# CREATE SUBSCRIPTOIN ... CONNECTION '... options=''-c
logical_wal_sender_shutdown_mode=immediate'''

+ Specifies the mode in which logical walsender process will terminate
+ after receival of shutdown request. Valid values are
+ <literal>wait_flush</literal> and <literal>immediate</literal>.
+ Default value is <literal>wait_flush</literal>.

Shouldn't physical replication walsenders also honor this parameter?
For example, the immediate mode seems useful for physical walsenders connected
from a very remote standby (e.g., DR site). Thought?

Regards,

[1] https://postgr.es/m/CAHGQGwGYV+-abbKwdrM2UHUe-JYOFWmsrs6=QicyJO-j+-Widw@mail.gmail.com

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Fujii Masao

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