Re: better page-level checksums

From: Peter Geoghegan <pg(at)bowt(dot)ie>
To: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: better page-level checksums
Date: 2022-06-15 02:29:44
Message-ID: CAH2-WzncBSSsbqM+=kvPv7sxVZzN8i-RD_SyX8bQDeeNcP0rrA@mail.gmail.com
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On Tue, Jun 14, 2022 at 7:17 PM Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> But it seems
> absolutely clear that our goal ought to be to leak as little
> information as possible.

But at what cost?

Basically I think that this is giving up rather a lot. For example,
isn't it possible that we'd have corruption that could be a bug in
either the checksum code, or in recovery?

I'd feel a lot better about it if there was some sense of both the
costs and the benefits.

> > Let's assume for now that we don't leave pd_flags unencrypted, as you
> > have suggested. We're still discussing new approaches to checksumming
> > in the scope of this work, which of course includes many individual
> > cases that don't involve any encryption. Plus even with encryption
> > there are things like defensive assertions that can be added by using
> > a flag bit for this.
>
> True. I don't think we should be too profligate with those bits just
> in case somebody needs a bunch of them for something important in the
> future, but it's probably fine to use up one or two.

Sure, but how many could possibly be needed for this? I can't see it
being more than 2 or 3. Which seems absolutely fine. They *definitely*
have no value if nobody ever uses them for anything.

--
Peter Geoghegan

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