| From: | Jelte Fennema-Nio <postgres(at)jeltef(dot)nl> |
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| To: | Jacob Champion <jacob(dot)champion(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> |
| Cc: | Dave Cramer <davecramer(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>, Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka(at)iki(dot)fi> |
| Subject: | Re: Proposal to allow setting cursor options on Portals |
| Date: | 2026-01-07 14:48:10 |
| Message-ID: | CAGECzQSfCPXdOpUKfdkPA9iZhGyRjZAad-CXbhApZ2CnjgG2kw@mail.gmail.com |
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On Tue, 6 Jan 2026 at 17:17, Jacob Champion
<jacob(dot)champion(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
> Well, I'd hoped that you and Jelte would maybe hash out your
> differences in opinion a bit before I jumped back in. You think
> extensions are orthogonal -- seemingly negating the primary advantage
> cited for regular minor bumps? -- but Jelte is optimizing for
> interrelated features.
I had a quick discord chat with Dave. And we don't disagree much with
each other: We both would like to use a version bump for these kinds
of very simple to implement features.
For an important part because we hope to do multiple of such small
changes in a single PG release, so the protocol can actually move
forward at a decent speed. Having a single version is only 1 option,
while having N protocol extensions a year gives at least N different
configurations (if they're all orthogonal, and at worst N*N).
In your first email you (Jacob) wrote this:
> I prefer protocol architectures that introduce separate
> extensions first, then periodically bundle the critical and
> highly-used extensions into a new minor version once they're sure that
> _everyone_ should support those things.
Dave and I both agree that if we create a protocol extension for every
tiny feature and then in 3 years include some of them in a protocol
bump, that's just a lot more complexity that every client author will
have to deal with in the long run.
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