From: | Pavel Stehule <pavel(dot)stehule(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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To: | Joel Jacobson <joel(at)trustly(dot)com> |
Cc: | Andres Freund <andres(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Marko Tiikkaja <marko(at)joh(dot)to>, Hannu Krosing <hannu(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Pg Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: PL/pgSQL 2 |
Date: | 2014-09-01 11:40:01 |
Message-ID: | CAFj8pRAcNykfr1Rbzqw2oriovmhEjhB04zF1AobAr2xoGO4E4g@mail.gmail.com |
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2014-09-01 13:30 GMT+02:00 Joel Jacobson <joel(at)trustly(dot)com>:
> On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Andres Freund <andres(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
> wrote:
> > The likelihood of us now knowing all the things that we want to break
> > rigth now seems about zero. There *will* be further ones. If we go with
> > the approach of creating new language versions for all of them we'll end
> > up with a completely unmaintainable mess. For PG devs, application dev
> > and DBAs.
>
> PL/pgSQL was added in 1998 (16 years ago).
>
> Compared this with again Python:
> 1994 Python 1.0
> 2000 Python 2.0 (6 years later)
> 2008 Python 3.0 (8 years later)
>
> Of course we don't know all the things we want to break in the *future*,
> but there is a good chance all users of PL/pgSQL know what they want
> to change *today*,
> thanks to the 16 years of active development in the language.
>
> In 16 years from now, maybe there is a need for PL/pgSQL 3, or maybe
> not, who knows.
>
>
For lot of people is Python3 big fail - and it can be much more dangerous
for Postgres than for much more larger Python community.
I don't see a necessity to do again. I have very good knowledge about users
in Czech, and probably only I know a limits of plpgsql.
I am thinking so some enhancing of plpgsql (extensions, extra errors, extra
warnings) is possible.
Regards
Pavel
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