Re: Logical Replication of sequences

From: Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: vignesh C <vignesh21(at)gmail(dot)com>, shveta malik <shveta(dot)malik(at)gmail(dot)com>, Shlok Kyal <shlok(dot)kyal(dot)oss(at)gmail(dot)com>, Chao Li <li(dot)evan(dot)chao(at)gmail(dot)com>, Masahiko Sawada <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com>, "Hayato Kuroda (Fujitsu)" <kuroda(dot)hayato(at)fujitsu(dot)com>, Nisha Moond <nisha(dot)moond412(at)gmail(dot)com>, Peter Smith <smithpb2250(at)gmail(dot)com>, Peter Eisentraut <peter(at)eisentraut(dot)org>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>, Euler Taveira <euler(at)eulerto(dot)com>, Michael Paquier <michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz>, "Zhijie Hou (Fujitsu)" <houzj(dot)fnst(at)fujitsu(dot)com>, "Jonathan S(dot) Katz" <jkatz(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Logical Replication of sequences
Date: 2025-10-07 11:25:49
Message-ID: CAFiTN-uMY+h+13uDW8ZBQjkL5K+VeqUCEZsrSB3+ZMfEXKAynQ@mail.gmail.com
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On Tue, Oct 7, 2025 at 3:51 PM Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Oct 7, 2025 at 2:21 PM Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 6, 2025 at 4:33 PM vignesh C <vignesh21(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, 6 Oct 2025 at 12:07, vignesh C <vignesh21(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, 4 Oct 2025 at 21:24, Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Sep 30, 2025 at 9:55 PM vignesh C <vignesh21(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > In the 0001 patch, pg_get_sequence_data() exposes two new fields
> > > > > log_cnt and page_lsn. I see that the later subscriber-side patch uses
> > > > > both, the first one in SetSequence(). It is not clear from the
> > > > > comments or the commit message of 0001 why it is necessary to use
> > > > > log_cnt when setting the sequence. Can you explain what the problem
> > > > > will be if we don't use log_cnt during sequence sync?
> > > >
> > > > I thought to keep the log_cnt value the same value as the publisher.
> > > > I have verified from the upgrade that we don't retain the log_cnt
> > > > value after upgrade, even if we copy log_cnt, the value will not be
> > > > retained. The attached
> > > > v20251006-0001-Enhance-pg_get_sequence_data-function.patch has the
> > > > changes to remove log_cnt.
> > >
> > > Here is the rebased remaining patches.
> >
> > While testing the patches with different combinations to make
> > publications, I do not understand why we don't support ALL SEQUENCE
> > with some table option, or is it future pending work.
> >
>
> Yes, it is left for future similar to the cases like FOR SEQUENCE s1
> or FOR SEQUENCES IN SCHEMA. The key idea was to first support the
> cases required for upgrade and we can later extend the feature after
> some user feedback or separate discussion with -hackers to see what
> others think. Does that sound reasonable to you?

Yeah that's correct, I think the main use case for sequence
synchronization is upgrade and it makes sense to use ALL TABLES/ALL
SEQUENCES for upgrade. However, if a user is using selective tables
for upgrade for now they might not be able to use ALL SEQUENCE and
that should be fine as we are going to provide add on functionality.

I have one more question: while testing the sequence sync, I found
this behavior is documented as well[1], but what's the reasoning
behind it? Why REFRESH PUBLICATION will synchronize only newly added
sequences and need to use REFRESH PUBLICATION SEQUENCES to
re-synchronize all sequences.

I mean what will be the use case where users just want to synchronize
the newly added sequences and not others?

[1]
+ <para>
+ use <link linkend="sql-altersubscription-params-refresh-publication">
+ <command>ALTER SUBSCRIPTION ... REFRESH PUBLICATION</command></link>
+ to synchronize only newly added sequences.
+ </para>
+ </listitem>
+ <listitem>
+ <para>
+ use <link
linkend="sql-altersubscription-params-refresh-publication-sequences">
+ <command>ALTER SUBSCRIPTION ... REFRESH PUBLICATION
SEQUENCES</command></link>
+ to re-synchronize all sequences.
+ </para>

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Regards,
Dilip Kumar
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