Re: reg license implications in implementing/using the JDBC spec

Thanks for the prompt reply Dave.
>> I would argue that the pgsql-jdbc driver existed long before this
license, but I'm not a lawyer.

Sure.. but earlier version of JDBC also had some license terms (for 3.0
looks more stringent).

>> Why do you want to know ?
I am trying to understand the potential license implications/infringements
of implementing the spec (or contributing to such implementation), and, as
a end-user, using such implementation in an appl. Just part of my legal due
diligence (as the spec license seem to allow only full-implementations)

thanks for clarifying.
-Prasad

On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 8:38 AM, Dave Cramer <pg(at)fastcrypt(dot)com> wrote:

>
> On 28 September 2016 at 20:44, Prasad Varakur <varakur(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> I am trying to understand how far the pgsql-jdbc driver is compliant with
>> the JDBC-spec license. First couple of pages of the spec has license terms:
>>
>> http://download.oracle.com/otn-pub/jcp/jdbc-4_1-mrel-spec/
>> jdbc4.1-fr-spec.pdf
>> - clause(1) seems to grant license for evaluation purpose
>> - clause(2) seems to grant license for compliant implementations as
>> defined by (a)-(c), which has to be a fully compliant implementation which
>> can pass the JDBC-TCK.
>>
>>
>> As I understand, the pgsql-jdbc is not evaluation, nor is a fully
>> compliant implementation. Documentation also states, it has postgres
>> specific extensions to the spec.
>>
>> With this, my Qs are:
>> 1) Is pgsql-jdbc a legitimate implementation of JDBC-spec, conforming
>> to the JDBC license terms? If so, how?
>>
> Not sure, nobody has ever asked this question before. I would argue that
> the pgsql-jdbc driver existed long before this license, but I'm not a
> lawyer.
>
>
>> 2) Does postgres-JDBC Group obtained special license from
>> Oracle/jdbc-Spec-owner for this implementation of pgsql-jdbc.
>>
> no
>
>> 3) Are users of pgsql-jdbc also considered violating jdbc-spec-license
>> terms, if pgsql-jdbc is not a legitimate implementation of the JDBC-spec.
>>
> again not sure.
>
> I do know that Oracle is well aware of the driver and has never made
> mention of it.
>
> Why do you want to know ?
>
>
>
> Dave Cramer
>
> davec(at)postgresintl(dot)com
> www.postgresintl.com
>
>

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thanks,
-Prasad
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