| From: | Ashutosh Bapat <ashutosh(dot)bapat(dot)oss(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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| To: | Peter Eisentraut <peter(at)eisentraut(dot)org> |
| Cc: | Amit Langote <amitlangote09(at)gmail(dot)com>, Junwang Zhao <zhjwpku(at)gmail(dot)com>, Vik Fearing <vik(at)postgresfriends(dot)org>, Ajay Pal <ajay(dot)pal(dot)k(at)gmail(dot)com>, Imran Zaheer <imran(dot)zhir(at)gmail(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
| Subject: | Re: SQL Property Graph Queries (SQL/PGQ) |
| Date: | 2025-12-30 09:44:02 |
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On Thu, Dec 18, 2025 at 2:45 PM Ashutosh Bapat
<ashutosh(dot)bapat(dot)oss(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>
>
> >
> > I did another investigation about whether this level of checking is
> > necessary. I think according to the letter of the SQL standard, the
> > typmods must indeed match. It seems Oracle does not check (the example
> > mentioned above came from an Oracle source). But I think it's okay to
> > keep the check. In PostgreSQL, it is much less common to write like
> > varchar(1000). And we can always consider relaxing it later.
>
> +1.
>
> Attached patch adds a couple more test statements.
>
Squashed this into the main patchset.
> >
> > 2) I had it in my notes to consider whether we should support the colon
> > syntax for label expressions. I think we might have talked about that
> > before.
> >
> > I'm now leaning toward not supporting it in the first iteration. I
> > don't know that we have fully explored possible conflicts with host
> > variable syntax in ecpg and psql and the like. Maybe avoid that for now.
> >
>
> I was aware of ecpg and I vaguely remember we fixed something in ECPG
> to allow : in MATCH statement. Probably following changes in
> psqlscan.l and pgc.l
> -self [,()\[\].;\:\+\-\*\/\%\^\<\>\=]
> +self [,()\[\].;\:\|\+\-\*\/\%\^\<\>\=]
>
> Those changes add | after : (and not the : itself) so maybe they are
> not about supporting : . Do you remember what those are?
I reverted those changes from both the files and ran "meson test". I
did not observe any failure. It seems those changes are not needed.
But adding them as a separate commit (0004) in case CI bot reveals any
failures without them.
I noticed that there were no ECPG tests for SQL/PGQ. Added a basic
test in patch 0003.
>
> I spotted some examples that use : in ddl.sgml.
> <programlisting>
> SELECT customer_name FROM GRAPH_TABLE (myshop MATCH
> (c:customer)-[:has]->(o:"order" WHERE o.ordered_when = current_date)
> COLUMNS (c.name AS customer_name));
> </programlisting>
>
> The query demonstrates that one can use label names in a way that will
> make the pattern look like an English sentence. Replacing : with IS
> defeats that purpose.
>
> As written in that paragraph, the labels serve the purpose of exposing
> the table with a different logical view (using different label and
> property names). So we need that paragraph, but I think we should
> change the example to use IS instead of :. Attached is suggested
> minimal change, but I am not happy with it. Another possibility is we
> completely remove that paragraph; I don't think we need to discuss all
> possible usages the users will come up with.
>
> The patch changes one more instance of : by IS. But that's straight forward.
>
> In ddl.sgml I noticed a seemingly incomplete sentence
> A property graph is a way to represent database contents, instead of using
> relational structures such as tables.
>
> Represent the contents as what? I feel the complete sentence should be
> one of the following
> property graph is a way to represent database contents as a graph,
> instead of representing those as relational structures OR
> property graph is another way to represent database contents instead
> of using relational structures such as tables
>
> But I can't figure out what was originally intended.
0002 contains some edits to this part of documentation. I think the
paragraph reads better than before. Let me know what you think.
Please let me know which of 0002 to 0004 look good to you. I will
squash those into the patchset in the next version.
--
Best Wishes,
Ashutosh Bapat
| Attachment | Content-Type | Size |
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| v20251230-0002-Fix-some-more-references-and-edit-document.patch | text/x-patch | 6.2 KB |
| v20251230-0003-Test-SQL-PGQ-with-ECPG.patch | text/x-patch | 27.0 KB |
| v20251230-0004-Possibly-unnecessary-changes.patch | text/x-patch | 1.5 KB |
| v20251230-0001-WIP-SQL-Property-Graph-Queries-SQL-PGQ.patch | text/x-patch | 663.0 KB |
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