Re: Please take part in the PostgreSQL ecosystem survey

From: Sameer Kumar <sameer(dot)kumar(at)ashnik(dot)com>
To: "Tsunakawa, Takayuki" <tsunakawa(dot)takay(at)jp(dot)fujitsu(dot)com>, "PostgreSQL Advocacy Group (pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org)" <pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Please take part in the PostgreSQL ecosystem survey
Date: 2016-04-18 15:30:40
Message-ID: CADp-Sm5Agz80526jAMzqMk1jBKQKsAHFh=-214X5avGiDpJNRw@mail.gmail.com
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On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 01:57 Tsunakawa, Takayuki, <
tsunakawa(dot)takay(at)jp(dot)fujitsu(dot)com> wrote:

> We are announcing the start of PostgreSQL ecosystem survey. By filling
> out the following survey form, please let us know what software you need in
> order to adopt PostgreSQL in wider range. The form comprises three
> questions: software/usage/industry category, a specific software, and a
> free comment on the interoperability issue of the software. Your request
> will encourage us to improve the interoperability of PostgreSQL to make
> more software available with PostgreSQL.
>
> Survey form
>
> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1Ueq4Z9MYJLv-gCp_UrPXENdSH6jXtqR0zz5F1W3Qqvo/viewform

Can I share this with my customers and share on social media?

>
> You can see the survey result in real time in the spreadsheets below.
>
> Survey response sheets
>
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sxd--agLVrFbn7M3YCqFTR812MrBExiyAM_4qVf9trk/pubhtml
>
> We really appreciate your cooperation. Thanks.
>
> Community discussion
>
> http://www.postgresql.org/message-id/471DBBEFA9CD4C26B83E7FAEDCB7482B@tunaPC
>
>
>
> BACKGROUND
> ============================================================
>
> Thanks to the long and hard effort by the community, PostgreSQL has been
> evolving to be a really great software comparable to existing strong
> commercial products. According to the following article, open source
> databases are gaining more popularity enough to influence the database
> market.
>
> Open source threatens to eat the database market
>
> http://www.infoworld.com/article/2916057/open-source-software/open-source-threatens-to-eat-the-database-market.html
>
> [Excerpt]
> "Though the proprietary RDBMS market grew at a sluggish 5.4 percent in
> 2014, the open source database market grew 31 percent to hit $562 million."
> "As Gartner highlights in a recent research report, open source databases
> now consume 25 percent of relational database usage."
>
> On the other hand, there is a gulf between the two top popular databases
> -- Oracle and MySQL -- and PostgreSQL. They are nearly five times more
> popular than PostgreSQL.
>
> DB-Engines Ranking
> http://db-engines.com/en/ranking
>
> Yes, I understand this ranking doesn't necessarily reflect the actual use,
> but I also don't think the ranking is far from the real popularity.
>
>
> PROBLEM: INSUFFICIENT AND/OR UNKNOWN INTEROPERABILITY
> ============================================================
>
> What will be necessary for more users to use PostgreSQL? One challenge is
> interoperability, or ecosystem in other words, which is to increase the
> number of software which supports PostgreSQL. To take advantage of the
> trend of shift from commercial products to open source, PostgreSQL needs to
> interoperate with many software that are used together with the commercial
> databases.
>
> The easily understandable target is Oracle, because it is anticipated that
> more users of Oracle will seek another database to avoid the expensive
> Oracle Standard Edition 2 and increasing maintenance costs. In addition,
> PostgreSQL has affinity for Oracle.
>
> However, there is a problem. The number of software is very small that
> the users can know to interoperate with PostgreSQL. That is, when the
> users want to migrate from commercial databases to PostgreSQL, they can't
> get information on whether they can continue to use their assets with
> PostgreSQL. Many applications might be interoperable through standard
> interfaces like JDBC/ODBC, but the case is unknown. For example:
>
> * Only 24 open source projects are listed as interoperable.
> Open Source Projects Using PostgreSQL
> https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/OpenSource_Projects_Using_PostgreSQL
>
> * About 120 products are listed in the "Software Catalog" (excluding the
> ones like PostgreSQL extensions). But the number would drop down to about
> 100 if the members of the same product family are counted as one.
> http://www.postgresql.org/download/products/5-reporting-tools/
>
> * Even EnterpriseDB has only 12 certified application vendors.
>
> http://www.enterprisedb.com/partner-programs/enterprisedb-certified-application-vendors
>
> * PostgreSQL Enterprise Consortium lists only about30 related products
> (Japanese only).
> https://www.pgecons.org/postgresql-info/business_sw/
>
> * MySQL touts more than 2,000 ISV/OEM/VARs.
> http://www.mysql.com/oem/
>
> Besides, in practice, more development efforts will probably be necessary
> to make PostgreSQL more interoperable with many software products. For
> example, one customer asked me whether Arcserve can be used to back up
> PostgreSQL databases, but unfortunately I had to answer no.
>
>
> ACTION: VISUALIZE AND IMPROVE INTEROPERABILITY
> ============================================================
>
> At the steering committee of PostgreSQL Enterprise Consortium (PGECons), I
> proposed starting the following activity. PGECons is a Japanese non-profit
> organization to promote PostgreSQL for enterprise use. The members include
> NTT, SRA OSS, Inc. (Tatsuo Ishii runs), NEC, Hitachi, HP, Fujitsu (my
> company), etc. The committee concluded that we need to work in cooperation
> with the PostgreSQL community.
>
> * Attract and ask product/service vendors to support/use PostgreSQL.
> Provide technical assistance to those vendors as an organization so that
> they can support PostgreSQL smoothly. If the vendors aren't proactive, we
> verify the interoperability with their software by executing it.
>
> * Make a directory of software/services that can be used with PostgreSQL
> on the community web site (wiki.postgresql.org or www.postgresql.org).
> Software/services vendors and PostgreSQL developers/users can edit this
> directory. This list not only has the names of software and its vendors,
> but also other information such as the level of interoperability (certified
> by the vendor, or verified by the community/users) and remarks about
> configuration, tuning, and whatever useful for users.
>
> PostgreSQL Enterprise Consortium (PGECons)
> https://www.pgecons.org/en
>
>
> Regards
> Takayuki Tsunakawa
>
>
>
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