Re: SIGSEGV from START_REPLICATION 0/XXXXXXX in XLogSendPhysical () at walsender.c:2762

From: Dave Cramer <davecramer(at)postgres(dot)rocks>
To: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
Cc: Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, Michael Paquier <michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz>, Fujii Masao <masao(dot)fujii(at)oss(dot)nttdata(dot)com>, Masahiko Sawada <masahiko(dot)sawada(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Kyotaro Horiguchi <horikyota(dot)ntt(at)gmail(dot)com>, Vladimir Sitnikov <sitnikov(dot)vladimir(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: SIGSEGV from START_REPLICATION 0/XXXXXXX in XLogSendPhysical () at walsender.c:2762
Date: 2020-06-05 13:04:31
Message-ID: CADK3HH+BawQ+DHd6ZMfQcC_+__=eOnaW_A=JVxupe7jeN5Qg5g@mail.gmail.com
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On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 at 19:46, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
wrote:

> On 2020-Jun-04, Andres Freund wrote:
>
> > postgres[52656][1]=# SELECT 1;
> > ┌──────────┐
> > │ ?column? │
> > ├──────────┤
> > │ 1 │
> > └──────────┘
> > (1 row)
> >
> >
> > I am very much not in love with the way that was implemented, but it's
> > there, and it's used as far as I know (cf tablesync.c).
>
> Ouch ... so they made IDENT in the replication grammar be a trigger to
> enter the regular grammar. Crazy. No way to put those worms back in
> the tin now, I guess.
>

Is that documented ?

>
> It is still my opinion that we should prohibit a logical replication
> connection from being used to do physical replication. Horiguchi-san,
> Sawada-san and Masao-san are all of the same opinion. Dave Cramer (of
> the JDBC team) is not opposed to the change -- he says they're just
> using it because they didn't realize they should be doing differently.

I think my exact words were

"I don't see this is a valid reason to keep doing something. If it is
broken then fix it.
Clients can deal with the change."

in response to:

Well, I don't really think that we can just break a behavior that
> exists since 9.4 as you could break applications relying on the
> existing behavior, and that's also the point of Vladimir upthread.
>

Which is different than not being opposed to the change. I don't see this
as broken,
and it's quite possible that some of our users are using it. It certainly
needs to be documented

Dave

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