Re: [PATCH] guc-ify the formerly hard-coded MAX_SEND_SIZE to max_wal_send

From: Jonathon Nelson <jdnelson(at)dyn(dot)com>
To: Kevin Grittner <kgrittn(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, "pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] guc-ify the formerly hard-coded MAX_SEND_SIZE to max_wal_send
Date: 2017-01-06 15:03:14
Message-ID: CACJqAM3qek-GPi1oP1ejotuQht+4tYF6a2VS+CnWHGubmzOY=A@mail.gmail.com
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On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 8:52 AM, Kevin Grittner <kgrittn(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 7:32 PM, Jonathon Nelson <jdnelson(at)dyn(dot)com> wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 1:01 PM, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>
> wrote:
> >> On 2017-01-05 12:55:44 -0600, Jonathon Nelson wrote:
>
> >>> In our lab environment and with a 16MiB setting, we saw substantially
> >>> better network utilization (almost 2x!), primarily over high bandwidth
> >>> delay product links.
> >>
> >> That's a bit odd - shouldn't the OS network stack take care of this in
> >> both cases? I mean either is too big for TCP packets (including jumbo
> >> frames). What type of OS and network is involved here?
> >
> > In our test lab, we make use of multiple flavors of Linux. No jumbo
> frames.
> > We simulated anything from 0 to 160ms RTT (with varying degrees of
> jitter,
> > packet loss, etc.) using tc. Even with everything fairly clean, at 80ms
> RTT
> > there was a 2x improvement in performance.
>
> Is there compression and/or encryption being performed by the
> network layers? My experience with both is that they run faster on
> bigger chunks of data, and that might happen before the data is
> broken into packets.
>

There is no compression or encryption. The testing was with and without
various forms of hardware offload, etc. but otherwise there is no magic up
these sleeves.

--
Jon Nelson
Dyn / Principal Software Engineer

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