Re: PostgreSQL pollutes the file system

From: Darafei "Komяpa" Praliaskouski <me(at)komzpa(dot)net>
To: Tomas Vondra <tomas(dot)vondra(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
Cc: "Fred (dot)Flintstone" <eldmannen(at)gmail(dot)com>, Mark Kirkwood <mark(dot)kirkwood(at)catalyst(dot)net(dot)nz>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Michael Paquier <michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz>, Andreas Karlsson <andreas(at)proxel(dot)se>, Chris Travers <chris(dot)travers(at)adjust(dot)com>, Tatsuo Ishii <ishii(at)sraoss(dot)co(dot)jp>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Euler Taveira <euler(at)timbira(dot)com(dot)br>, Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123(at)gmail(dot)com>, Postgres hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: PostgreSQL pollutes the file system
Date: 2019-03-27 13:56:02
Message-ID: CAC8Q8tLs6VxcT2iS4JgKGmc5hpmRx7CCSG-qSXOO90atdkkybQ@mail.gmail.com
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Hello,

at the very least my Ubuntu Cosmic has createdb, createuser and createlang
in user's space, and I had at least two cases when people were trying to
use createuser to create a new OS user.

I would prefer them having pg_ prefix to have less confusion.

On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 4:51 PM Tomas Vondra <tomas(dot)vondra(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 02:31:14PM +0100, Fred .Flintstone wrote:
> >Many of these are gone in the modern PostgreSQL, a few remain.
> >https://packages.ubuntu.com/disco/amd64/postgresql-client-11/filelist
> >
> >/usr/lib/postgresql/11/bin/clusterdb
> >/usr/lib/postgresql/11/bin/createdb
> >/usr/lib/postgresql/11/bin/createuser
> >/usr/lib/postgresql/11/bin/dropdb
> >/usr/lib/postgresql/11/bin/dropuser
> >/usr/lib/postgresql/11/bin/pg_basebackup
> >/usr/lib/postgresql/11/bin/pg_dump
> >/usr/lib/postgresql/11/bin/pg_dumpall
> >/usr/lib/postgresql/11/bin/pg_isready
> >/usr/lib/postgresql/11/bin/pg_receivewal
> >/usr/lib/postgresql/11/bin/pg_recvlogical
> >/usr/lib/postgresql/11/bin/pg_restore
> >/usr/lib/postgresql/11/bin/psql
> >/usr/lib/postgresql/11/bin/reindexdb
> >/usr/lib/postgresql/11/bin/vacuumdb
> >
> >Can we rename clusterdb, reindexdb and vacuumdb to carry the pg_ prefix?
> >
>
> I think the consensus in this thread (and the previous ancient ones) is
> that it's not worth it. It's one thing to introduce new commands with the
> pg_ prefix, and it's a completely different thing to rename existing ones.
> That has inherent costs, and as Tom pointed out the burden would fall on
> people using PostgreSQL (and that's rather undesirable).
>
> I personally don't see why having commands without pg_ prefix would be
> an issue. Especially when placed in a separate directory, which eliminates
> the possibility of conflict with other commands.
>
> regards
>
> --
> Tomas Vondra http://www.2ndQuadrant.com
> PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services
>
>
>
>

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