Re: [PATCH] Add GitLab CI to PostgreSQL

From: Gurjeet Singh <gurjeet(at)singh(dot)im>
To: Daniel Gustafsson <daniel(at)yesql(dot)se>
Cc: Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net>, "Newhouse, Robin" <robinnew(at)amazon(dot)com>, "pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>, "Kekalainen, Otto" <ottoke(at)amazon(dot)com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add GitLab CI to PostgreSQL
Date: 2023-07-06 19:19:42
Message-ID: CABwTF4UcKJ-uNO-NEFnWhAKYg2pc6=MpPY6U8AWcFxRzmY1v6w@mail.gmail.com
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On Thu, Jul 6, 2023 at 11:27 AM Daniel Gustafsson <daniel(at)yesql(dot)se> wrote:
>
> > On 6 Jul 2023, at 20:10, Gurjeet Singh <gurjeet(at)singh(dot)im> wrote:
>
> > I can
> > imagine if cfbot was developed against some other CI, it's very likely
> > that we'd be using that other CI instead of Cirrus.
>
> The CFBot originally used Travis, but switched in late 2020 when Travis almost
> over night become hard to use for open source projects:
>
> https://github.com/macdice/cfbot/commit/a62aa6d77dd4cc7f0a5549db378cd6f1cf25c0e2

Thanks for providing the historical context! A for-profit entity,
despite their best intentions, and sometimes by no fault of their own,
may not survive. It's not that a non-profits are guaranteed to
survive, but the conditions they operate in are drastically different
than those of for-profit ones.

> These systems come and go, and each have their quirks.

I'm sure the community has seen enough of such disappearances over the
years, which is why I was surprised to see the adoption of Cirrus in
core (after I had stopped paying attention to Postgres hackers list
for a few years). Having read that whole discussion, though, I do see
the immense value Cirrus CI provides.

> Having options is good,
> but maintaining multiple ones isn't necessarily a free fire-and-forget type of
> thing for the community.

By not adopting at least one other CI, it'd seem like the community
is favoring Cirrus over others; and that doesn't feel good.

Best regards,
Gurjeet
http://Gurje.et

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