Re: PROXY protocol support

From: Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>
To: Álvaro Hernández <aht(at)ongres(dot)com>
Cc: Jacob Champion <pchampion(at)vmware(dot)com>, "pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>, Fabrízio Mello <fabrizio(at)ongres(dot)com>
Subject: Re: PROXY protocol support
Date: 2021-03-05 09:03:46
Message-ID: CABUevEz2vYT+iRhssA7PSuSh+aVuXkg95aaiC9Z_8T3dTLomUg@mail.gmail.com
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On Fri, Mar 5, 2021 at 1:33 AM Álvaro Hernández <aht(at)ongres(dot)com> wrote:
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> On 5/3/21 0:21, Jacob Champion wrote:
> > On Thu, 2021-03-04 at 21:45 +0100, Magnus Hagander wrote:
> >> On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 9:07 PM Jacob Champion <pchampion(at)vmware(dot)com> wrote:
> >>> Idle thought I had while setting up a local test rig: Are there any
> >>> compelling cases for allowing PROXY packets to arrive over Unix
> >>> sockets? (By which I mean, the proxy is running on the same machine as
> >>> Postgres, and connects to it using the .s.PGSQL socket file instead of
> >>> TCP.) Are there cases where you want some other software to interact
> >>> with the TCP stack instead of Postgres, but it'd still be nice to have
> >>> the original connection information available?
> >> I'm uncertain what that usecase would be for something like haproxy,
> >> tbh. It can't do connection pooling, so adding it on the same machine
> >> as postgres itself wouldn't really add anything, I think?
> > Yeah, I wasn't thinking HAproxy so much as some unspecified software
> > appliance that's performing Some Task before allowing a TCP client to
> > speak to Postgres. But it'd be better to hear from someone that has an
> > actual use case, instead of me spitballing.
>
> Here's a use case: Envoy's Postgres filter (see [1], [2]). Right now
> is able to capture protocol-level metrics and send them to a metrics
> collector (eg. Prometheus) while proxying the traffic. More capabilities
> are being added as of today, and will eventually manage HBA too. It
> would greatly benefit from this proposal, since it proxies the traffic
> with, obviously, its IP, not the client's. It may be used (we do)
> locally fronting Postgres, via UDS (so it can be easily trusted).

Yeah, Envoy is definitely a great example of a usecase for the proxy
protocol in general.

Specifically about the Unix socket though -- doesn't envoy normally
run on a different instance (or in a different container at least),
thus normally uses tcp between envoy and postgres? Or would it be a
reasonable usecase that you ran it locally on the postgres server,
having it speak IP to the clients but unix sockets to the postgres
backend? I guess maybe it is outside of the containerized world?

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Magnus Hagander
Me: https://www.hagander.net/
Work: https://www.redpill-linpro.com/

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