Re: Commitfest app vs. pgsql-docs

From: Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>
To: Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net>, Daniel Gustafsson <daniel(at)yesql(dot)se>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)alvh(dot)no-ip(dot)org>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>, Laurenz Albe <laurenz(dot)albe(at)cybertec(dot)at>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Commitfest app vs. pgsql-docs
Date: 2021-05-26 20:25:58
Message-ID: CABUevExm0YKyPjC4wLGSsV=euuN+HwQyaKwtG9GXWUw_bcHcSQ@mail.gmail.com
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On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 7:21 PM Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 11:03 PM Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net> wrote:
> >
> > On 5/24/21 10:55 AM, Magnus Hagander wrote:
> > > On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 4:18 PM Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On 5/24/21 8:42 AM, Daniel Gustafsson wrote:
> > >>>> On 24 May 2021, at 11:47, Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 11:08 PM Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)alvh(dot)no-ip(dot)org> wrote:
> > >>>>> On 2021-May-19, Andrew Dunstan wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> It's just a reference after all. So someone supplies a reference to an
> > >>>>>> email on an out of the way list. What's the evil that will occur? Not
> > >>>>>> much really AFAICT.
> > >>>> Well, if you include all lists, the ability for you to findi things by
> > >>>> the "most recent posts" or by searching for anything other than a
> > >>>> unique message id will likely become less useful.
> > >>> Thats a good case for restricting this to the smaller set of lists which will
> > >>> cover most submissions anyways. With a smaller set we could make the UX still
> > >>> work without presenting an incredibly long list.
> > >>>
> > >>> Or, the most recent emails dropdown only cover a set of common lists but
> > >>> a search will scan all lists?
> > >>>
> > >>>> As long as you only ever search by message-id it won't make a difference.
> > >>> Without any supporting evidence to back it up, my gut feeling tells me the most
> > >>> recent mails list is a good/simple way to lower the bar for submissions.
> > >>>
> > >> Maybe. I only ever do this by using an exact message-id, since that's
> > >> what the web form specifically asks for :-)
> > > The webform lets you either do a free text search, or pick from a
> > > list, or enter a message-id, no?
> >
> >
> >
> > Yes it does, but the text next to the field says "Specify thread msgid:".
>
> Yes, I've always been confused by that form. I may have tried to
> enter some free text once but AFAIR I always use the specific
> message-id.

This is clearly in need of a better UX. Any suggestions on how would
be welcome. Would be enough to just say "Or specify... "?

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Magnus Hagander
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