Re: Releasing in September

From: Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
Subject: Re: Releasing in September
Date: 2016-01-20 17:12:15
Message-ID: CABUevEwOhUmk8XZ=LiPuRGErSZt0bE7wG9XPnRj375Syv_930w@mail.gmail.com
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On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 5:19 PM, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:

> Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net> writes:
> > On Jan 20, 2016 5:03 PM, "Andres Freund" <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> wrote:
> >> FWIW, looking at the last few commitfests, aside heroic and
> >> unsustainable efforts by individual CF managers, I haven't noticed any
> >> effect of when fests started/stopped. Aside from a short time increase
> >> in unfinished patches being posted the day before the next CFs starts.
>
> > Yeah, we seem to be firmly stuck at two month long commitfests started
> > every two months. The plan was for them to be one month..
>
> > Maybe we should try just very drastically cutting them at one month and
> > bumping everything left. No questions asked, no extra time for anybody.
> > Regardless of if it's the first or the last commitfest.
>
> > Just to see what happens. Because what we are doing now clearly doesn't
> > work..
>
> I do not think commitfest length is the problem (though surely it's not
> working as intended). What happened with 9.5 is we forked the 9.6
>

I agree that it's not the same problem. I do believe that it is *a* problem
though, and a fairly significant one too. Because there's *never* any
downtime from CF mode, regardless of where in the cycle we are.

While not the same, we need to fix both.

We will not get back to on-schedule releases unless we can keep -hackers
> working on release testing/stabilization when it's time to do that,
> rather than being distracted by shiny new stuff going into the next
> release.
>

Agreed.

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Magnus Hagander
Me: http://www.hagander.net/
Work: http://www.redpill-linpro.com/

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