From: | Michael Paquier <michael(dot)paquier(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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To: | Sawada Masahiko <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Cc: | Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com>, Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Fujii Masao <masao(dot)fujii(at)gmail(dot)com>, Jim Nasby <Jim(dot)Nasby(at)bluetreble(dot)com>, Petr Jelinek <petr(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, Greg Stark <stark(at)mit(dot)edu>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Jeff Janes <jeff(dot)janes(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Subject: | Re: Freeze avoidance of very large table. |
Date: | 2015-07-13 12:24:53 |
Message-ID: | CAB7nPqTOh2DmdPN5P8sYPWEc0BgCfg0=e8qfeYMTerpqGetvsA@mail.gmail.com |
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On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 9:03 PM, Sawada Masahiko <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 7:46 PM, Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 3:39 PM, Sawada Masahiko <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 9:07 PM, Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> wrote:
>>> > On 6 July 2015 at 17:28, Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> I think we need something for pg_upgrade to rewrite existing VMs.
>>> >> Otherwise a large read only database would suddenly require a massive
>>> >> revacuum after upgrade, which seems bad. That can wait for now until we
>>> >> all
>>> >> agree this patch is sound.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Since we need to rewrite the "vm" map, I think we should call the new
>>> > map
>>> > "vfm"
>>> >
>>> > That way we will be able to easily check whether the rewrite has been
>>> > conducted on all relations.
>>> >
>>> > Since the maps are just bits there is no other way to tell that a map
>>> > has
>>> > been rewritten
>>>
>>> To avoid revacuum after upgrade, you meant that we need to rewrite
>>> each bit of vm to corresponding bits of vfm, if it's from
>>> not-supporting vfm version(i.g., 9.5 or earlier ). right?
>>> If so, we will need to do whole scanning table, which is expensive as
>>> well.
>>> Clearing vm and do revacuum would be nice, rather than doing in
>>> upgrading, I think.
>>>
>>
>> How will you ensure to have revacuum for all the tables after
>> upgrading?
>
> We use script file which are generated by pg_upgrade.
I haven't followed this thread closely, but I am sure you recall that
vacuumdb has a parallel mode.
--
Michael
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