Re: PG 10 release notes

From: Michael Paquier <michael(dot)paquier(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
Cc: Andreas Karlsson <andreas(at)proxel(dot)se>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: PG 10 release notes
Date: 2017-04-26 02:06:03
Message-ID: CAB7nPqTJ+z0FyeJ2VdaPNA=XQaxmeM3WfnGbiCixt+q2hbNpaw@mail.gmail.com
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On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> wrote:
> First, I don't think RFC references belong in the release notes, let
> alone RFC links.
>
> Second, there seems to be some confusion over what SCRAM-SHA-256 gives
> us over MD5. I think there are a few benefits:
>
> o packets cannot be replayed as easily, i.e. md5 replayed random salt
> packets with a 50% probability after 16k sessions
> o hard to re-use SCRAM-SHA-256 string if disclosed vs. simple for md5
> o harder to brute-force trying all possible strings to find a matching
> hash
>
> So if you tell users that SCRAM-SHA-256 is better than MD5 only because
> of one of those, they will not realize that three benefits of changing
> to SCRAM-SHA-256. I might have even missed some benefits.

If the release notes keep a general tone, perhaps it would be better
to mention as well that SCRAM is the recommended password-based
authentication method moving forward?
--
Michael

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