Re: Proposal: "Causal reads" mode for load balancing reads without stale data

From: Michael Paquier <michael(dot)paquier(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Thomas Munro <thomas(dot)munro(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Amit Langote <Langote_Amit_f8(at)lab(dot)ntt(dot)co(dot)jp>, Thom Brown <thom(at)linux(dot)com>, Jim Nasby <Jim(dot)Nasby(at)bluetreble(dot)com>, Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka(at)iki(dot)fi>, Pg Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Proposal: "Causal reads" mode for load balancing reads without stale data
Date: 2016-03-24 06:11:12
Message-ID: CAB7nPqS=6S0WjaS2SiHcF4F8dNj1JRn44fve27Nb+Xz4RZ=oPw@mail.gmail.com
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On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 11:32 PM, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> Well, I wouldn't go that far. It seems pretty clear that remote_apply
> by itself is useful - I can't imagine anybody seriously arguing the
> contrary, whatever they think of this implementation. My view,
> though, is that by itself that's pretty limiting: you can only have
> one standby, and if that standby falls over then you lose
> availability. Causal reads fixes both of those problems - admittedly
> that requires some knowledge in the application or the pooler, but
> it's no worse than SSI in that regard. Still, half a loaf is better
> than none, and I imagine even just getting remote_apply would make a
> few people quite happy.

OK, let's do so then, even if causal reads don't get into 9.6 users
could get advantage of remote_apply on multiple nodes if the N-sync
patch gets in.

Just looking at 0001.

- <literal>remote_write</>, <literal>local</>, and <literal>off</>.
+ <literal>remote_write</>, <literal>remote_apply</>,
<literal>local</>, and <literal>off</>.
The default, and safe, setting
I imagine that a run of pgindent would be welcome for such large lines.

+#define XactCompletionSyncApplyFeedback(xinfo) \
+ (!!(xinfo & XACT_COMPLETION_SYNC_APPLY_FEEDBACK))
That's not directly something this patch should take care of, but the
notation "!!" has better be avoided (see stdbool thread with VS2015).

- SyncRepWaitForLSN(gxact->prepare_end_lsn);
+ SyncRepWaitForLSN(gxact->prepare_end_lsn, false);
Isn't it important to ensure that a PREPARE LSN is applied as well on
the standby with remote_apply? Say if an application prepares a
transaction, it would commit locally but its LSN may not be applied on
the standby with this patch. That would be a surprising behavior for
the user.

(not commenting on the latch and SIGUSR2 handling, you are still
working on it per your last update).
--
Michael

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