Re: increasing the default WAL segment size

From: Michael Paquier <michael(dot)paquier(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com>, Jim Nasby <Jim(dot)Nasby(at)bluetreble(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Beena Emerson <memissemerson(at)gmail(dot)com>
Subject: Re: increasing the default WAL segment size
Date: 2017-01-04 23:45:03
Message-ID: CAB7nPqRjxUfeVNVrAzN-P6gi4Z8iTg-Tx8v0JhyaP-Wa8sy7-A@mail.gmail.com
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On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 12:33 AM, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 9:47 AM, Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> wrote:
>> On 4 January 2017 at 13:57, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 3:05 AM, Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> wrote:
>>>> Strange response. Nothing has been assumed. I asked for tests and you
>>>> provided measurements.
>>>
>>> Sure, of zero-filling a file with dd. But I also pointed out that in
>>> a real PostgreSQL cluster, the change could actually *reduce* latency.
>>
>> I think we are talking at cross purposes. We agree that the main
>> change is useful, but it causes another problem which I can't see how
>> you can characterize as reduced latency, based upon your own
>> measurements.
>
> Zero-filling files will take longer if the files are bigger. That
> will increase latency. But we will also have fewer forced
> end-of-segment syncs. That will reduce latency. Which effect is
> bigger?

It depends on if the environment is CPU-bounded or I/O bounded. If CPU
is at its limit, zero-filling takes time. If that's the I/O, fsync()
would take longer to complete.
--
Michael

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