Re: Re: Clarifying "server starting" messaging in pg_ctl start without --wait

On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 5:01 AM, Peter Eisentraut
<peter(dot)eisentraut(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> wrote:
> On 1/18/17 8:25 AM, Stephen Frost wrote:
>> I was actually thinking about it the other way- start out by changing
>> them to both be 5m and then document next to checkpoint_timeout (and
>> max_wal_size, perhaps...) that if you go changing those parameters (eg:
>> bumping up checkpoint_timeout to 30 minutes and max_wal_size up enough
>> that you're still checkpointing based on time and not due to running out
>> of WAL space) then you might need to consider raising the timeout for
>> pg_ctl to wait around for the server to finish going through crash
>> recovery due to all of the outstanding changes since the last
>> checkpoint.
>
> It is important for users to be aware of this, but I don't think the
> relationship between checkpoint_timeout and recovery time is linear, so
> it's unclear what the exact advice should be.

This is a right assumption for steady workloads with few DDLs, but for
example once a couple of CREATE DATABASE records are in such a law is
broken.
--
Michael