From: | David Rowley <dgrowleyml(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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To: | Richard Guo <guofenglinux(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Cc: | Alexander Korotkov <aekorotkov(at)gmail(dot)com>, Andrei Lepikhov <lepihov(at)gmail(dot)com>, Alexander Pyhalov <a(dot)pyhalov(at)postgrespro(dot)ru>, Andy Fan <zhihuifan1213(at)163(dot)com>, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>, Nikita Malakhov <HukuToc(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Subject: | Re: MergeAppend could consider sorting cheapest child path |
Date: | 2025-10-15 07:59:40 |
Message-ID: | CAApHDvq=ojGX_JXxxFX8k7-qRKwBjA1hZN-2EjmNFijUcq3ZdQ@mail.gmail.com |
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 at 19:45, Richard Guo <guofenglinux(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> I also noticed the hack you added to avoid using MergeAppend+Sort when
> none of the chosen subpaths are ordered. It seems to me that this
> contradicts the idea of this patch. If MergeAppend+Sort is indeed a
> better plan, why wouldn't it apply in cases where no chosen subpaths
> are ordered?
FWIW, I've not really followed this closely, but from the parts I have
read it seems the patch could cause a Sort -> unsorted path to be used
over a path that's already correctly sorted. This reminds me of a
patch I proposed in [1] and then subsequently decided it was a bad
idea in [2] because of concerns of having too many Sorts in a single
plan. Sort only calls tuplesort_end() at executor shutdown, so that
means possibly using up to work_mem per sort node. If you have 1000x
Sort nodes, then that's up to 1000x work_mem. Since the planner
doesn't have any abilities to consider the overall memory consumption,
I thought it was a bad idea due to increased OOM risk. If I'm not
mistaken it looks like this could suffer from the same problem.
David
[1] https://postgr.es/m/CAApHDvojKdBR3MR59JXmaCYbyHB6Q_5qPRU%2Bdy93En8wm%2BXiDA%40mail.gmail.com
[2] https://postgr.es/m/CAApHDvohAZLQSW4AiHUKmLGNuHYbi0pves%2B9_9ik3cAYevc2GQ%40mail.gmail.com
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