| From: | David Rowley <dgrowleyml(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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| To: | Mok <gurmokh(at)protonmail(dot)com> |
| Cc: | "pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org> |
| Subject: | Re: New vacuum config to avoid anti wraparound vacuums |
| Date: | 2026-04-23 14:09:57 |
| Message-ID: | CAApHDvoa0ZwBjFYRypxHaqdFYwwDd6rTr5GWY8LASXr3kWY8Dg@mail.gmail.com |
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On Fri, 24 Apr 2026 at 01:04, Mok <gurmokh(at)protonmail(dot)com> wrote:
>
> On Thursday, April 23rd, 2026 at 4:44 AM, David Rowley <dgrowleyml(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 23 Apr 2026 at 08:19, Mok <gurmokh(at)protonmail(dot)com> wrote:
> > > For example, set to 0.8 a 'standard' vacuum would be triggered when the table reached 160million with a default 200million setting.
> >
> > If that's what you want, why wouldn't you set the
> > autovacuum_freeze_max_age to 160million?
>
> Because that would trigger a 'to-prevent-wraparound' vacuum, which is what this change is trying to avoid.
Yes, it would. Why do you want to prevent them? I believe a few people
have been alarmed in the past about the "to prevent wraparound" text
in pg_stat_activity or when they saw those words in the logs. The
default 200 million autovacuum_freeze_max_age setting triggers an
autovacuum when it's less than 10% of the way into exhausting the
transaction space for the table. What you're proposing with an
autovacuum_age_scale_factor of 0.1 sounds like it would result in an
auto-vacuum when only 1% of the transaction ID space is consumed! I
think you're under the false impression that these anti-wraparound
vacuums are bad. They're not.
There's some documentation that might be worthwhile reading in [1].
David
[1] https://www.postgresql.org/docs/18/routine-vacuuming.html#VACUUM-FOR-WRAPAROUND
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