Re: [PATCH] Incremental sort (was: PoC: Partial sort)

From: James Coleman <jtc331(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Tomas Vondra <tomas(dot)vondra(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
Cc: Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Rafia Sabih <rafia(dot)pghackers(at)gmail(dot)com>, Shaun Thomas <shaun(dot)thomas(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Dmitry Dolgov <9erthalion6(at)gmail(dot)com>, Alexander Korotkov <a(dot)korotkov(at)postgrespro(dot)ru>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, PostgreSQL Developers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Incremental sort (was: PoC: Partial sort)
Date: 2019-06-24 23:34:19
Message-ID: CAAaqYe9pzNZnF328bFZfzR8zJK9Mvft3i6TN0NjxjCkWeVm1iQ@mail.gmail.com
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On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 4:16 PM Tomas Vondra
<tomas(dot)vondra(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 01:00:50PM -0400, James Coleman wrote:
> >On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 12:56 PM Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 at 16:10, James Coleman <jtc331(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 11:38:12PM -0400, James Coleman wrote:
...
> >>> As I see it the two most significant concerning cases right now are:
> >>> 1. Very large batches (in particular where the batch is effectively
> >>> all of the matching rows such that we're really just doing a standard
> >>> sort).
> >>> 2. Many very small batches.
> >>
> >>
> >> What is the specific use case for this? This sounds quite general case.
> >
> >They are both general cases in some sense, but the concerns lie mostly
> >with what happens when they're unexpectedly encountered. For example,
> >if the expected row count or group size is off by a good bit and we
> >effectively have to perform a sort of all (or most) possible rows.
> >
> >If we can get the performance to a point where that misestimated row
> >count or group size doesn't much matter, then ISTM including the patch
> >becomes a much more obvious total win.
> >
>
> Yes, that seems like a reasonable approach. Essentially, we're trying to
> construct plausible worst case examples, and then minimize the overhead
> compared to regular sort. If we get sufficiently close, then it's fine
> to rely on somewhat shaky stats - like group size estimates.

I have a bit of a mystery in my performance testing. I've been setting
up a table like so:

create table foo(pk serial primary key, owner_fk integer, created_at timestamp);
insert into foo(owner_fk, created_at)
select fk_t.i, now() - (time_t.i::text || ' minutes')::interval
from generate_series(1, 10000) time_t(i)
cross join generate_series(1, 1000) fk_t(i);
-- double up on one set to guarantee matching prefixes
insert into foo (owner_fk, created_at) select owner_fk, created_at
from foo where owner_fk = 23;
create index idx_foo_on_owner_and_created_at on foo(owner_fk, created_at);
analyze foo;

and then I have the following query:

select *
from foo
where owner_fk = 23
order by created_at desc, pk desc
limit 20000;

The idea here is to force a bit of a worst case for small groups: we
have 10,000 batches (i.e., equal prefix groups) of 2 tuples each and
then query with a limit matching the actual number of rows we know
will match the query -- so even though there's a limit we're forcing a
total sort (and also guaranteeing both plans have to touch the same
number of rows). Note: I know that batches of size is actually the
worst case, but I chose batches of two because I've also been testing
a change that would skip the sort entirely for single tuple batches.

On master (really the commit right before the current revision of the
patch), I get:
latency average = 14.271 ms
tps = 70.075243 (excluding connections establishing)

With the patch (and incremental sort enabled):
latency average = 11.975 ms
tps = 83.512090 (excluding connections establishing)

With the patch (but incremental sort disabled):
latency average = 11.884 ms
tps = 84.149834 (excluding connections establishing)

All of those are 60 seconds runs on pgbench with a single thread.

So we have a very substantial speedup with patch *even if the new
feature isn't enabled*. I've confirmed the plan looks the same on
patched with incremental sort disabled and master. The only changes
that would seem to really effect execution time would be the changes
to tuplesort.c, but looking through them I don't see anything I'd
expect to change things so dramatically.

Any thoughts on this?

James Coleman

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