Re: AWS forcing PG upgrade from v9.6 a disaster

From: Ryan Bair <ryandbair(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: "Dean Gibson (DB Administrator)" <postgresql(at)mailpen(dot)com>
Cc: Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net>, "pgsql-performance(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-performance(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>, lance(at)illinois(dot)edu
Subject: Re: AWS forcing PG upgrade from v9.6 a disaster
Date: 2021-05-28 19:39:23
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The problem is the plan. The planner massively underestimated the number of
rows arising from the _EN/_AM join.

Usually postgres is pretty good about running ANALYZE as needed, but it
might be a good idea to run it manually to rule that out as a potential
culprit.

On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 3:19 PM Campbell, Lance <lance(at)illinois(dot)edu> wrote:

> Also, did you check your RDS setting in AWS after upgrading? I run four
> databases in AWS. I found that the work_mem was set way low after an
> upgrade. I had to tweak many of my settings.
>
>
>
> Lance
>
>
>
> *From: *Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net>
> *Date: *Friday, May 28, 2021 at 2:08 PM
> *To: *Dean Gibson (DB Administrator) <postgresql(at)mailpen(dot)com>,
> pgsql-performance(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org <
> pgsql-performance(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>
> *Subject: *Re: AWS forcing PG upgrade from v9.6 a disaster
>
>
> On 5/28/21 2:48 PM, Dean Gibson (DB Administrator) wrote:
> > [Reposted to the proper list]
> >
> > I started to use PostgreSQL v7.3 in 2003 on my home Linux systems (4
> > at one point), gradually moving to v9.0 w/ replication in 2010. In
> > 2017 I moved my 20GB database to AWS/RDS, gradually upgrading to v9.6,
> > & was entirely satisfied with the result.
> >
> > In March of this year, AWS announced that v9.6 was nearing end of
> > support, & AWS would forcibly upgrade everyone to v12 on January 22,
> > 2022, if users did not perform the upgrade earlier. My first attempt
> > was successful as far as the upgrade itself, but complex queries that
> > normally ran in a couple of seconds on v9.x, were taking minutes in v12.
> >
> > I didn't have the time in March to diagnose the problem, other than
> > some futile adjustments to server parameters, so I reverted back to a
> > saved copy of my v9.6 data.
> >
> > On Sunday, being retired, I decided to attempt to solve the issue in
> > earnest. I have now spent five days (about 14 hours a day), trying
> > various things, including adding additional indexes. Keeping the v9.6
> > data online for web users, I've "forked" the data into new copies, &
> > updated them in turn to PostgreSQL v10, v11, v12, & v13. All exhibit
> > the same problem: As you will see below, it appears that versions 10
> > & above are doing a sequential scan of some of the "large" (200K rows)
> > tables. Note that the expected & actual run times both differ for
> > v9.6 & v13.2, by more than *two orders of magnitude*. Rather than post
> > a huge eMail (ha ha), I'll start with this one, that shows an "EXPLAIN
> > ANALYZE" from both v9.6 & v13.2, followed by the related table & view
> > definitions. With one exception, table definitions are from the FCC
> > (Federal Communications Commission); the view definitions are my own.
> >
> >
> >
>
> Have you tried reproducing these results outside RDS, say on an EC2
> instance running vanilla PostgreSQL?
>
>
> cheers
>
>
> andrew
>
>
>
> --
> Andrew Dunstan
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