|From:||Andrew Dunstan <andrew(dot)dunstan(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>|
|To:||Michael Paquier <michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz>|
|Cc:||Kyotaro HORIGUCHI <horiguchi(dot)kyotaro(at)lab(dot)ntt(dot)co(dot)jp>, Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>, Michael Paquier <michael(dot)paquier(at)gmail(dot)com>, Thomas Munro <thomas(dot)munro(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, David Steele <david(at)pgmasters(dot)net>, Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka(at)iki(dot)fi>, Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, Fujii Masao <masao(dot)fujii(at)gmail(dot)com>, kleptog(at)svana(dot)org, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>|
|Subject:||Re: [HACKERS] WAL logging problem in 9.4.3?|
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On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 12:59 AM, Michael Paquier <michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz> wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 10:06:46AM +0900, Kyotaro HORIGUCHI wrote:
>> Hello. I found that c203d6cf81 hit this and this is the rebased
>> version on the current master.
> Okay, as this is visibly the oldest item in this commit fest, Andrew has
> asked me to look at a solution which would allow us to definitely close
> the loop for all maintained branches. In consequence, I have been
> looking at this problem. Here are my thoughts:
> - The set of errors reported on this thread are alarming, depending on
> the scenarios used, we could have "could not read file" stuff, or even
> data loss after WAL replay comes and wipes out everything.
> - Disabling completely the TRUNCATE optimization is definitely not cool,
> as there could be an impact for users.
> - Removing wal_level = minimal is not acceptable as well, as some people
> rely on this feature.
> - Rewriting the sync handling of heap relation files in an invasive way
> may be something to investigate and improve on HEAD (I am not really
> convinced about that actually for the optimizations discussed on this
> thread as this may result in more bugs than actual fixes), but that
> would do nothing for back-branches.
> Hence I propose the patch attached which disables the TRUNCATE and COPY
> optimizations for two cases, which are the ones actually causing
> problems. One solution has been presented by Simon here for COPY, which
> is to disable the optimization when there are no blocks on a relation
> with wal_level = minimal:
> For back-patching, I find that really appealing.
> The second thing that the patch attached does is to tweak
> ExecuteTruncateGuts so as the TRUNCATE optimization never runs for
> wal_level = minimal.
> Another thing that this patch adds is a set of regression tests to
> stress all the various scenarios presented on this thread with table
> creation, INSERT, COPY and TRUNCATE running in the same transactions for
> both wal_level = minimal and replica, which make sure that there are no
> failures and no actual data loss. The test is useful anyway, as any
> patch presented did not present a way to test easily all the scenarios,
> except for a bash script present upthread, but this discarded some of
> the cases.
> I would propose that for a back-patch, except for the test which can go
> down easily to 9.6 but I have not tested that yet.
Many thanks for working on this.
+1 for these changes, even though the TRUNCATE fix looks perverse. If
anyone wants to propose further optimizations in this area this would
at least give us a startpoint which is correct.
Andrew Dunstan https://www.2ndQuadrant.com
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