| From: | Sami Imseih <samimseih(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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| To: | Yugo Nagata <nagata(at)sraoss(dot)co(dot)jp> |
| Cc: | Michael Paquier <michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz>, Pgsql Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
| Subject: | Re: Track skipped tables during autovacuum and autoanalyze |
| Date: | 2026-03-25 17:12:35 |
| Message-ID: | CAA5RZ0v=tdz3nGgq-Sk7hEwac1P=5J7d+SXd+62azfqiogdG6w@mail.gmail.com |
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> > On Wed, Mar 25, 2026 at 01:28:47AM +0900, Yugo Nagata wrote:
> > > Although the timestamps are overwritten on each skipped autovacuum or
> > > autoanalyze, they still indicate when the last attempt was made. This
> > > can help users confirm that autovacuum is actively attempting to run,
> > > and that the issue is due to repeated skips rather than inactivity.
> > >
> > > While counters can indicate overall activity, they do not reveal when
> > > the last skip occurred. With timestamps, users can immediately see the
> > > most recent attempt, even without a separate dashboard or historical
> > > tracking.
> > >
> > > Therefore, counters are useful for monitoring overall activity, but
> > > timestamps give additional, complementary information, so it seems
> > > worthwhile to include them too.
> >
> > Hmm.. I can buy this argument for the timestamps, especially for
> > database with many relations of various sizes that could take a
> > various amount of time to process. The timestamps could offer hints
> > about the time it takes between the skips, even if snapshots of the
> > stats data are not taken at a very aggressive frequency.
I'm fine with adding timestamps, as there seem to be convincing
reasons to add them.
My other concern is bloat of the pg_stat_all_tables view. This patch
adds 4 columns, or
8 if we also include manual vacuum and analyze (which I think we should).
Given that, should we also start thinking about splitting the vacuum
activity related
columns into a dedicated view and out of pg_stat_all_tables for v20?
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Sami Imseih
Amazon Web Services (AWS)
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