Re: Unhappy about API changes in the no-fsm-for-small-rels patch

From: Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
Cc: John Naylor <john(dot)naylor(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Unhappy about API changes in the no-fsm-for-small-rels patch
Date: 2019-05-02 03:24:47
Message-ID: CAA4eK1LiX4u13U7P6k7H-sXP1_pi0fj4VHRG2CFZMJtR7Nfvmw@mail.gmail.com
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On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 3:42 AM Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> wrote:
>
> On 2019-May-01, Amit Kapila wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 7:52 PM Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> wrote:
>
> > > Hmm ... so, if vacuum runs and frees up any space from any of the pages,
> > > then it should send out an invalidation -- it doesn't matter what the
> > > FSM had, just that there is more free space now. That means every other
> > > process will need to determine a fresh FSM,
> >
> > I think you intend to say the local space map because once FSM is
> > created we will send invalidation and we won't further build relcache
> > entry having local space map.
>
> Yeah, I mean the map that records free space.
>
> > > but that seems correct. Sounds better than keeping outdated entries
> > > indicating no-space-available.
> >
> > Agreed, but as mentioned in one of the above emails, I am also bit
> > scared that it should not lead to many invalidation messages for small
> > relations, so may be we should send the invalidation message only when
> > the entire page is empty.
>
> I don't think that's a concern, is it? You typically won't be running
> multiple vacuums per second, or even multiple vacuums per minute.
>

That's right. So let's try by adding invalidation call whenever space
is reduced. Is there a good way to test whether the new invalidation
calls added by this patch has any significant impact?

--
With Regards,
Amit Kapila.
EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com

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