Re: Time delayed LR (WAS Re: logical replication restrictions)

From: Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Kyotaro Horiguchi <horikyota(dot)ntt(at)gmail(dot)com>
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Subject: Re: Time delayed LR (WAS Re: logical replication restrictions)
Date: 2022-12-15 03:48:55
Message-ID: CAA4eK1LhE0iBtJ76u+efRkSB_n7t_bsR=ZVjrxVGfLoQ4JyuqA@mail.gmail.com
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On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 7:22 AM Kyotaro Horiguchi
<horikyota(dot)ntt(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>
> At Wed, 14 Dec 2022 16:30:28 +0530, Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote in
> > On Wed, Dec 14, 2022 at 4:16 PM Hayato Kuroda (Fujitsu)
> > <kuroda(dot)hayato(at)fujitsu(dot)com> wrote:
> > > One idea to avoid that is to send the min_apply_delay subscriber option to publisher
> > > and compare them, but it may be not sufficient. Because XXX_timout GUC parameters
> > > could be modified later.
> > >
> >
> > How about restarting the apply worker if min_apply_delay changes? Will
> > that be sufficient?
>
> Mmm. If publisher knows that value, isn't it albe to delay *sending*
> data in the first place? This will resolve many known issues including
> walsender's un-terminatability, possible buffer-full and status packet
> exchanging.
>

Yeah, but won't it change the meaning of this parameter? Say the
subscriber was busy enough that it doesn't need to add an additional
delay before applying a particular transaction(s) but adding a delay
to such a transaction on the publisher will actually make it take much
longer to reflect than expected. We probably need to name this
parameter as min_send_delay if we want to do what you are saying and
then I don't know if it serves the actual need and also it will be
different from what we do in physical standby.

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With Regards,
Amit Kapila.

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