| From: | Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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| To: | shveta malik <shveta(dot)malik(at)gmail(dot)com> |
| Cc: | vignesh C <vignesh21(at)gmail(dot)com>, Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut(at)gmail(dot)com>, Nisha Moond <nisha(dot)moond412(at)gmail(dot)com>, Peter Smith <smithpb2250(at)gmail(dot)com>, Masahiko Sawada <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com>, Bharath Rupireddy <bharath(dot)rupireddyforpostgres(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>, shveta malik <shvetamalik(at)gmail(dot)com> |
| Subject: | Re: Proposal: Conflict log history table for Logical Replication |
| Date: | 2026-05-06 11:01:19 |
| Message-ID: | CAA4eK1LFcSc4XCj4mU-cv27F_6n6=+ehJ=YAsAnyBbz4Sv_tVg@mail.gmail.com |
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On Wed, May 6, 2026 at 3:01 PM shveta malik <shveta(dot)malik(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, May 6, 2026 at 9:24 AM vignesh C <vignesh21(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> >
> > Few comments:
> > 1) Currently we allow renaming of pg_conflict schema, this might be ok
> > as we allow other sysem schema like pg_catalog and pg_toast also.
> > postgres=# alter schema pg_conflict rename to test_conflict;
> > ALTER SCHEMA
> >
>
> I agree that we allow renaming other schemas including pg_toast, but I
> am not sure if this is consciously made decision, see BUG #18281 ast
> [1]. I don't favour allowing renaming pg_conflict for 2 reasons:
>
> 1) Because Postgres explicitly blocks renaming schemas to a name
> starting with 'pg_'. If an admin accidentally renames 'pg_conflict' to
> something else, they are permanently locked out from renaming it back.
>
> 2) While the core worker might survive a rename via OID lookups;
> external scripts, extensions, and monitoring tools will likely
> hardcode the 'pg_conflict' string. If the schema is renamed, these
> tools will fail.
>
I think we shouldn't go out of our way to disallow superusers to
rename pg_conflict schema similar to other cases. We can try to
prevent hard-coding schema names where possible but not sure we can
guarantee that nothing related to pg_conflict schema won't break as
shown by you in the following similar case for pg_conflict.
> One such example of scripts breaking is present event in Postgres. I
> did the following, and most of psql commands started failing after
> that due to hard-coded pg_catalog name in them.
>
> postgres=# alter schema pg_catalog rename to catalog_new;
> ALTER SCHEMA
>
> postgres=# \d catalog_new.*
> ERROR: relation "pg_catalog.pg_class" does not exist
> LINE 5: FROM pg_catalog.pg_class c
>
> [1]: https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/flat/18281-5b1b6c5991d345aa%40postgresql.org
>
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With Regards,
Amit Kapila.
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