Re: Skipping logical replication transactions on subscriber side

From: Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Masahiko Sawada <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Peter Eisentraut <peter(dot)eisentraut(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, "houzj(dot)fnst(at)fujitsu(dot)com" <houzj(dot)fnst(at)fujitsu(dot)com>, "tanghy(dot)fnst(at)fujitsu(dot)com" <tanghy(dot)fnst(at)fujitsu(dot)com>, "osumi(dot)takamichi(at)fujitsu(dot)com" <osumi(dot)takamichi(at)fujitsu(dot)com>, Alexey Lesovsky <lesovsky(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Greg Nancarrow <gregn4422(at)gmail(dot)com>
Subject: Re: Skipping logical replication transactions on subscriber side
Date: 2021-10-04 05:31:24
Message-ID: CAA4eK1LFJ4a_3Aruht5q0fukY7Ehk60XW-BibU3F-rifX9yVog@mail.gmail.com
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On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 6:01 AM Masahiko Sawada <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 5:32 PM Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 6:30 AM Masahiko Sawada <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 5:05 AM Peter Eisentraut
> > > <peter(dot)eisentraut(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On 30.09.21 07:45, Masahiko Sawada wrote:
> > > > > I've attached updated patches that incorporate all comments I got so
> > > > > far. Please review them.
> > > >
> > > > I'm uneasy about the way the xids-to-be-skipped are presented as
> > > > subscriptions options, similar to settings such as "binary". I see how
> > > > that is convenient, but it's not really the same thing, in how you use
> > > > it, is it? Even if we share some details internally, I feel that there
> > > > should be a separate syntax somehow.
> > >
> > > Since I was thinking that ALTER SUBSCRIPTION ... SET is used to alter
> > > parameters originally set by CREATE SUBSCRIPTION, in the first several
> > > version patches it added a separate syntax for this feature like ALTER
> > > SUBSCRIPTION ... SET SKIP TRANSACTION xxx. But Amit was concerned
> > > about an additional syntax and consistency with disable_on_error[1]
> > > which is proposed by Mark Diliger[2], so I’ve changed it to a
> > > subscription option.
> > >
> >
> > Yeah, the basic idea is that this is not the only option we will
> > support for taking actions on error/conflict. For example, we might
> > want to disable subscriptions or allow skipping transactions based on
> > XID, LSN, etc.
>
> I guess disabling subscriptions on error/conflict and skipping the
> particular transactions are somewhat different types of functions.
> Disabling subscriptions on error/conflict seems likes a setting
> parameter of subscriptions. The users might want to specify this
> option at creation time.
>

Okay, but they can still specify it by using "On Error" syntax.

> Whereas, skipping the particular transaction
> is a repair function that the user might want to use on the spot in
> case of a failure. I’m concerned a bit that combining these functions
> to one syntax could confuse the users.
>

Fair enough, I was mainly trying to combine the syntax for all actions
that we can take "On Error". We can allow to set them either at Create
Subscription or Alter Subscription time.

I think here the main point is that does this addresses Peter's
concern for this Patch to use a separate syntax? Peter E., can you
please confirm? Do let us know if you have something else going in
your mind?

--
With Regards,
Amit Kapila.

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