Re: Transactions involving multiple postgres foreign servers, take 2

From: Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com>
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Subject: Re: Transactions involving multiple postgres foreign servers, take 2
Date: 2020-10-21 10:08:34
Message-ID: CAA4eK1K_edn6ib2__zLoP=BTAkaQb3uxMF271=5NQ=+N8x48uA@mail.gmail.com
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On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 3:03 PM tsunakawa(dot)takay(at)fujitsu(dot)com
<tsunakawa(dot)takay(at)fujitsu(dot)com> wrote:
>
> From: Masahiko Sawada <masahiko(dot)sawada(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
> > So what's your opinion?
>
> * Global visibility
> This is what Amit-san suggested some times -- "design it before reviewing the current patch." I'm a bit optimistic about this and think this FDW 2PC can be implemented separately as a pure enhancement of FDW. But I also understand his concern. If your (our?) aim is to use this FDW 2PC for sharding,
>

As far as I understand that is what the goal is for which this is a
step. For example, see the wiki [1]. I understand that wiki is not the
final thing but I have seen other places as well where there is a
mention of FDW based sharding and I feel this is the reason why many
people are trying to improve this area. That is why I suggested having
an upfront design of global visibility and a deadlock detector along
with this work.

[1] - https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/WIP_PostgreSQL_Sharding

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With Regards,
Amit Kapila.

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