Re: pg_upgrade's interaction with pg_resetwal seems confusing

From: Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Bharath Rupireddy <bharath(dot)rupireddyforpostgres(at)gmail(dot)com>, "Hayato Kuroda (Fujitsu)" <kuroda(dot)hayato(at)fujitsu(dot)com>, Hou, Zhijie/侯 志杰 <houzj(dot)fnst(at)fujitsu(dot)com>
Subject: Re: pg_upgrade's interaction with pg_resetwal seems confusing
Date: 2023-10-13 10:44:30
Message-ID: CAA4eK1J54Qz3_YbqPUKhuv7NnxHjOZ+tXzDw9QPxTYKZMSWZTg@mail.gmail.com
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On Fri, Oct 13, 2023 at 2:03 PM Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Oct 13, 2023 at 11:07 AM Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> >
> > > But is this a problem? basically, we will set the
> > > ShmemVariableCache->nextOid counter to the value that we want in the
> > > IsBinaryUpgrade-specific function. And then the shutdown checkpoint
> > > will flush that value to the control file and that is what we want no?
> > >
> >
> > I think that can work. Basically, we need to do something like what
> > SetNextObjectId() does and then let the shutdown checkpoint update the
> > actual value in the control file.
>
> Right.
>
> > > I mean instead of resetwal directly modifying the control file we
> > > will modify that value in the server using the binary_upgrade function
> > > and then have that value flush to the disk by shutdown checkpoint.
> > >
> >
> > True, the alternative to consider is to let pg_upgrade update the
> > control file by itself with the required value of OID. The point I am
> > slightly worried about doing via server-side function is that some
> > online and or shutdown checkpoint can update other values in the
> > control file as well whereas if we do via pg_upgrade, we can have
> > better control over just updating the OID.
>
> Yeah, thats a valid point.
>

But OTOH, just updating the control file via pg_upgrade may not be
sufficient because we should keep the shutdown checkpoint record also
updated with that value. See how pg_resetwal achieves it via
RewriteControlFile() and WriteEmptyXLOG(). So, considering both the
approaches it seems better to go with a server-side function as Robert
suggested.

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With Regards,
Amit Kapila.

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