Re: [HACKERS] Moving relation extension locks out of heavyweight lock manager

From: Masahiko Sawada <masahiko(dot)sawada(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
To: Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Masahiko Sawada <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, Michael Paquier <michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz>, Mithun Cy <mithun(dot)cy(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Thomas Munro <thomas(dot)munro(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Moving relation extension locks out of heavyweight lock manager
Date: 2020-02-14 06:12:18
Message-ID: CA+fd4k77ad+tmqN+PszM6H=i9YyDLxsFQcAPcP0fvksgB2aVDw@mail.gmail.com
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On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 at 13:16, Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 9:13 PM Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
> >
> > I took a brief look through this patch. I agree with the fundamental
> > idea that we shouldn't need to use the heavyweight lock manager for
> > relation extension, since deadlock is not a concern and no backend
> > should ever need to hold more than one such lock at once. But it feels
> > to me like this particular solution is rather seriously overengineered.
> > I would like to suggest that we do something similar to Robert Haas'
> > excellent hack (daa7527af) for the !HAVE_SPINLOCK case in lmgr/spin.c,
> > that is,
> >
> > * Create some predetermined number N of LWLocks for relation extension.
> > * When we want to extend some relation R, choose one of those locks
> > (say, R's relfilenode number mod N) and lock it.
> >
>
> I am imagining something on the lines of BufferIOLWLockArray (here it
> will be RelExtLWLockArray). The size (N) could MaxBackends or some
> percentage of it (depending on testing) and indexing into an array
> could be as suggested (R's relfilenode number mod N).

I'm not sure it's good that the contention of LWLock slot depends on
MaxBackends. Because it means that the more MaxBackends is larger, the
less the LWLock slot conflicts, even if the same number of backends
actually connecting. Normally we don't want to increase unnecessarily
MaxBackends for security reasons. In the current patch we defined a
fixed length of array for extension lock but I agree that we need to
determine what approach is the best depending on testing.

Regards,

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Masahiko Sawada http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
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