Re: Transactions involving multiple postgres foreign servers, take 2

From: Masahiko Sawada <masahiko(dot)sawada(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
To: Ashutosh Bapat <ashutosh(dot)bapat(dot)oss(at)gmail(dot)com>
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Subject: Re: Transactions involving multiple postgres foreign servers, take 2
Date: 2020-10-19 12:20:09
Message-ID: CA+fd4k4Mq4Gi=fQwTH_azto9Zh+0E2Ote-7LTcrseJU6DBTP2w@mail.gmail.com
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On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 20:37, Ashutosh Bapat
<ashutosh(dot)bapat(dot)oss(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 2:37 PM tsunakawa(dot)takay(at)fujitsu(dot)com
> <tsunakawa(dot)takay(at)fujitsu(dot)com> wrote:
> >
> > Really. I thought we were talking about canceling commits with Ctrl + C as you referred, right? I couldn't imagine, in production environments where many sessions are running transactions concurrently, how the user (DBA) wants and can cancel each stuck session during commit one by one with Ctrl + C by hand. I haven't seen such a feature exist or been considered crucial that enables the user (administrator) to cancel running processing with Ctrl + C from the side.
>
> Using pg_cancel_backend() and pg_terminate_backend() a DBA can cancel
> running query from any backend or terminate a backend. For either to
> work the backend needs to be interruptible. IIRC, Robert had made an
> effort to make postgres_fdw interruptible few years back.

Right. Also, We discussed having a timeout on the core side but I'm
concerned that the timeout also might not work if it's not
interruptible.

While using the timeout is a good idea, I have to think there is also
a certain number of the user who doesn't use this timeout as there is
a certain number of the users who doesn't use timeouts such as
statement_timeout. We must not ignore such users and It might not be
advisable to design a feature that ignores such users.

Regards,

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Masahiko Sawada http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
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