Re: Uh, I change my mind about commit_delay + commit_siblings (sort of)

From: Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com>
To: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Peter Geoghegan <peter(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, PG Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Uh, I change my mind about commit_delay + commit_siblings (sort of)
Date: 2012-05-30 08:36:49
Message-ID: CA+U5nM+NpS7m4AFXFXusGuvyD=+DmmgVGBM0LTD9kpjjVD7+JA@mail.gmail.com
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On 29 May 2012 17:58, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Peter Geoghegan <peter(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> wrote:
>> Why do you think that doing this for all XLogFlush() callsites might
>> be problematic?
>
> Well, consider the one in the background writer, for example.  That's
> just a periodic flush, so I see no benefit in having it acquire the
> lock and then wait some more.  It already did wait.  And what about
> the case where we're flushing while holding WALInsertLock because the
> buffer's full?  Clearly waiting is useless in that case - nobody can
> join the group commit for exactly the same reason that we're doing the
> flush in the first place: no buffer space.

When I read this the first time, I was in full agreement.

On closer inspection neither point is valid, though both points were
worth considering.

> Well, consider the one in the background writer, for example.  That's
> just a periodic flush, so I see no benefit in having it acquire the
> lock and then wait some more.  It already did wait.

We use XLogBackgroundFlush() not XLogFlush() from background processes.

> And what about
> the case where we're flushing while holding WALInsertLock because the
> buffer's full?  Clearly waiting is useless in that case - nobody can
> join the group commit for exactly the same reason that we're doing the
> flush in the first place: no buffer space.

We don't flush WAL in that case, we just write it.

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