From: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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To: | Robert Treat <rob(at)xzilla(dot)net> |
Cc: | Melanie Plageman <melanieplageman(at)gmail(dot)com>, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, Masahiko Sawada <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com>, Marcos Pegoraro <marcos(at)f10(dot)com(dot)br>, Alena Rybakina <a(dot)rybakina(at)postgrespro(dot)ru>, Nazir Bilal Yavuz <byavuz81(at)gmail(dot)com>, Pg Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Peter Geoghegan <pg(at)bowt(dot)ie> |
Subject: | Re: Eagerly scan all-visible pages to amortize aggressive vacuum |
Date: | 2025-02-04 20:55:19 |
Message-ID: | CA+TgmobrKkj2zC68H2ugC_GizmpnvU9JowQPBW=54N+c+ruGbQ@mail.gmail.com |
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On Tue, Feb 4, 2025 at 2:57 PM Robert Treat <rob(at)xzilla(dot)net> wrote:
> > Yea, I thought that counting them as failures made sense because we
> > did fail to freeze them. However, now that you mention it, we didn't
> > fail to freeze them because of age, so maybe we don't want to count
> > them as failures. I don't expect us to have a bunch of contended
> > all-visible pages, so I think the question is about what makes it more
> > clear in the code. What do you think? Should I reset was_eager_scanned
> > to false if we don't get the cleanup lock?
>
> I feel like if we are making the trade-off in resources to attempt
> eager scanning, and we weren't making progress for whatever reason
> (and in the lock failure cases, wouldn't some of those be things that
> would prevent us from freezing?) then it would generally be ok to bias
> towards bailing sooner rather than later.
Failures to acquire cleanup locks are, hopefully, rare, so it may not
matter that much. Having said that, if we skip a page because we can't
acquire a cleanup lock on it, I think that means that it was already
present in shared_buffers, which means that we didn't have to do an
I/O to get it. Since I think the point of the failure cap is mostly to
limit wasted I/O, I would lean toward NOT counting such cases as
failures.
--
Robert Haas
EDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
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