Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs

From: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>
Cc: Thomas Munro <thomas(dot)munro(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Andreas Karlsson <andreas(at)proxel(dot)se>, Andrew Gierth <andrew(at)tao11(dot)riddles(dot)org(dot)uk>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, David Fetter <david(at)fetter(dot)org>, Pg Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Early WIP/PoC for inlining CTEs
Date: 2019-01-11 19:10:39
Message-ID: CA+TgmobVMPX1wJxPaRQ=FZBzp-AQ=JWK=bzxztqwj=MsOsrnrA@mail.gmail.com
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On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 2:04 PM Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> wrote:
> > Maybe we could consider a more extensible syntax that is attached to
> > the contained SELECT rather than the containing WITH. Then CTEs would
> > be less special; there'd be a place to put hints controlling top-level
> > queries, subselects, views etc too (perhaps eventually join hints,
> > parallelism hints etc, but "materialize this" would be just another
> > one of those things). That'd be all-in.
>
> I think you have some purity arguments here, but the likelihood of us
> developing a full-blown solution is not that high, and the lack of
> inlinable CTEs is *really* hurting us. As long as the design doesn't
> block a full solution, if we go there, I think it's a very acceptable
> blemish in comparison to the benefits we'd get.

Also, it seems to me that this is properly a property of the
individual WITH clause, not the query as a whole.

I mean I suppose we could do

WITH or_with_out_you OPTIONS (materialized false) AS (SELECT 'mariah
carey') SELECT ...

That'd allow for extensibility, have the write scope, and look like
what we do elsewhere. It looks a little less elegant than

WITH cte_name [[NOT] MATERIALIZED] AS (query) main_query...

...but maybe elegance for extensibility is a good trade.

--
Robert Haas
EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company

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