Re: [PATCH] Incremental backup: add backup profile to base backup

From: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Claudio Freire <klaussfreire(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnakangas(at)vmware(dot)com>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Marco Nenciarini <marco(dot)nenciarini(at)2ndquadrant(dot)it>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Incremental backup: add backup profile to base backup
Date: 2014-08-22 16:00:19
Message-ID: CA+TgmobMgZeL6e3kCcgCke5RQ87z4qN=pD7X-sSgWDHTbN6-NQ@mail.gmail.com
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On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Claudio Freire <klaussfreire(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 8:24 PM, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> wrote:
>> On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 04:05:07PM +0300, Heikki Linnakangas wrote:
>>> But more to the point, I thought the consensus was to use the
>>> highest LSN of all the blocks in the file, no? That's essentially
>>> free to calculate (if you have to read all the data anyway), and
>>> isn't vulnerable to collisions.
>>
>> The highest-LSN approach allows you to read only the tail part of each
>> 8k block. Assuming 512-byte storage sector sizes, you only have to read
>> 1/8 of the file.
>>
>> Now, the problem is that you lose kernel prefetch, but maybe
>> posix_fadvise() would fix that problem.
>
> Sequential read of 512-byte blocks or 8k blocks takes the same amount
> of time in rotating media (if they're scheduled right). Maybe not in
> SSD media.
>
> Not only, the kernel will read in 4k blocks, instead of 8k (at least in linux).
>
> So, the benefit is dubious.

Agreed. But, there could be a CPU benefit, too. Pulling the LSN out
of a block is probably a lot cheaper than checksumming the whole
thing.

--
Robert Haas
EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company

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