Re: PROC_IN_ANALYZE stillborn 13 years ago

From: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, James Coleman <jtc331(at)gmail(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>, Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
Subject: Re: PROC_IN_ANALYZE stillborn 13 years ago
Date: 2020-08-06 18:48:52
Message-ID: CA+Tgmob0veNwAikDiuWTHcTpQHdqAHFqqgf9ycg9dZyiWR30eg@mail.gmail.com
Views: Raw Message | Whole Thread | Download mbox | Resend email
Thread:
Lists: pgsql-hackers

On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 2:37 PM Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
> +1 for removal. It's not clear to me that we'd ever put it back.
> Long-running ANALYZE snapshots are indeed a problem, but Simon's proposal
> upthread to just take a new one every so often seems like a much cleaner
> and simpler answer than having onlookers assume that it's safe to ignore
> ANALYZE processes. (Given that ANALYZE can invoke user-defined functions,
> and can be invoked from inside user transactions, any such assumption
> seems horribly dangerous.

Not to get too far from the proposal on the table of just removing
something that's been unused for a really long time, which stands on
its own merits, but if a particular ANALYZE doesn't invoke any
user-defined functions and isn't run inside a transaction, could we
skip acquiring a snapshot altogether? That's an extremely common case,
though by no means universal.

--
Robert Haas
EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company

In response to

Responses

Browse pgsql-hackers by date

  From Date Subject
Next Message Tom Lane 2020-08-06 19:11:27 Re: PROC_IN_ANALYZE stillborn 13 years ago
Previous Message Tom Lane 2020-08-06 18:37:38 Re: PROC_IN_ANALYZE stillborn 13 years ago