Re: drop/truncate table sucks for large values of shared buffers

From: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: drop/truncate table sucks for large values of shared buffers
Date: 2015-06-28 13:11:29
Message-ID: CA+TgmoZiPkkUXr+Ebu=cGmmhPpc=N5uo-FvetxSfkT_4BZadQg@mail.gmail.com
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On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> wrote:
> On 2015-06-27 10:10:04 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
>> In the past we've speculated about fixing the performance of these things
>> by complicating the buffer lookup mechanism enough so that it could do
>> "find any page for this table/tablespace/database" efficiently.
>> Nobody's had ideas that seemed sane performance-wise though.
>
> I've started to play around with doing that a year or three back. My
> approach was to use a linux style radix tree for the buffer mapping
> table. Besides lack of time what made it hard to be efficient was the
> size of our buffer tags requiring rather deep trees.
>
> I think I was considering playing around with a two-level tree (so we
> could cache a pointer in Relation or such), but the memory management
> requirements for that made my head hurt too much. The other alternative
> is to work on having a much simpler buffer tag

Wouldn't even a two-level tree have the same problem you complained
about vis-a-vis chash? In that case, you were of the opinion that
even ONE extra level of indirection was enough to pinch. (I'm still
hoping there is a way to fix that, but even so.)

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Robert Haas
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