Re: pg_combinebackup does not detect missing files

From: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: David Steele <david(at)pgmasters(dot)net>
Cc: Pg Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: pg_combinebackup does not detect missing files
Date: 2024-04-24 14:05:31
Message-ID: CA+TgmoZPP0xwVcmMpCXiiykz5PcTGg0Y_jtANV+pBxMj60EFQg@mail.gmail.com
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On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 7:23 PM David Steele <david(at)pgmasters(dot)net> wrote:
> > I don't understand what you mean here. I thought we were in agreement
> > that verifying contents would cost a lot more. The verification that
> > we can actually do without much cost can only check for missing files
> > in the most recent backup, which is quite weak. pg_verifybackup is
> > available if you want more comprehensive verification and you're
> > willing to pay the cost of it.
>
> I simply meant that it is *possible* to verify the output of
> pg_combinebackup without explicitly verifying all the backups. There
> would be overhead, yes, but it would be less than verifying each backup
> individually. For my 2c that efficiency would make it worth doing
> verification in pg_combinebackup, with perhaps a switch to turn it off
> if the user is confident in their sources.

Hmm, can you outline the algorithm that you have in mind? I feel we've
misunderstood each other a time or two already on this topic, and I'd
like to avoid more of that. Unless you just mean what the patch I
posted does (check if anything from the final manifest is missing from
the corresponding directory), but that doesn't seem like verifying the
output.

> >> I think it is a worthwhile change and we are still a month away from
> >> beta1. We'll see if anyone disagrees.
> >
> > I don't plan to press forward with this in this release unless we get
> > a couple of +1s from disinterested parties. We're now two weeks after
> > feature freeze and this is design behavior, not a bug. Perhaps the
> > design should have been otherwise, but two weeks after feature freeze
> > is not the time to debate that.
>
> It doesn't appear that anyone but me is terribly concerned about
> verification, even in this weak form, so probably best to hold this
> patch until the next release. As you say, it is late in the game.

Added https://commitfest.postgresql.org/48/4951/

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Robert Haas
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