Re: Randomisation for ensuring nlogn complexity in quicksort

From: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Atri Sharma <atri(dot)jiit(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: PgHacker <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Randomisation for ensuring nlogn complexity in quicksort
Date: 2013-07-01 19:32:27
Message-ID: CA+TgmoZ6ieHB3ZCaa=xCoOBzc9MEHPBBO+hk-UsFmOaYgzSHWg@mail.gmail.com
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On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 8:30 AM, Atri Sharma <atri(dot)jiit(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> I have been reading the recent discussion and was researching a bit, and I think that we should really go with the idea of randomising the input data(if it is not completely presorted), to ensure that we do not get quadratic complexity.

That doesn't ensure any such thing. It just makes it less likely.
But we have existing guards that also make that unlikely, so I'm not
sure what we'd be gaining.

> One easy way to do that could be to take a sample of the data set, and take a pivot out of it. Still a better way could be to take multiple samples which are spread of the data set, select a value from each of them, and then take a cumulative pivot(median,maybe).

We pretty much do that already.

> This shouldn't be too complex, and should give us a fixed nlogn complexity even for wild data sets, without affecting existing normal data sets that are present in every day transactions. I even believe that those data sets will also benefit from the above optimisation.

The only method of selecting a pivot for quicksort that obtain O(n lg
n) run time with 100% certainty is have a magical oracle inside the
computer that tells you in fixed time and with perfect accuracy which
pivot you should select.

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