Re: [HACKERS] Re: 9.4.1 -> 9.4.2 problem: could not access status of transaction 1

From: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>
Cc: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Thomas Munro <thomas(dot)munro(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>, Steve Kehlet <steve(dot)kehlet(at)gmail(dot)com>, Forums postgresql <pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Pg Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Re: 9.4.1 -> 9.4.2 problem: could not access status of transaction 1
Date: 2015-06-03 12:24:20
Message-ID: CA+TgmoY6VCYUJrxs=x2sBCPPYO0Jsm0dwYoBaCorQW8eoSP09g@mail.gmail.com
Views: Raw Message | Whole Thread | Download mbox | Resend email
Thread:
Lists: pgsql-general pgsql-hackers

On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 5:22 PM, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> wrote:
>> > Hm. If GetOldestMultiXactOnDisk() gets the starting point by scanning
>> > the disk it'll always get one at a segment boundary, right? I'm not sure
>> > that's actually ok; because the value at the beginning of the segment
>> > can very well end up being a 0, as MaybeExtendOffsetSlru() will have
>> > filled the page with zeros.
>> >
>> > I think that should be harmless, the worst that can happen is that
>> > oldestOffset errorneously is 0, which should be correct, even though
>> > possibly overly conservative, in these cases.
>>
>> Uh oh. That seems like a real bad problem for this approach. What
>> keeps that from being the opposite of too conservative? There's no
>> "safe" value in a circular numbering space.
>
> I think it *might* (I'm really jetlagged) be fine because that'll only
> happen after a upgrade from < 9.3. And in that case we initialize
> nextOffset to 0. That ought to safe us?

That's pretty much betting the farm on the bugs we know about today
being the only ones there are. That seems imprudent.

--
Robert Haas
EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company

In response to

Responses

Browse pgsql-general by date

  From Date Subject
Next Message Daniel Begin 2015-06-03 15:14:34 Problem when temp_tablespace get full?
Previous Message Robert Haas 2015-06-03 12:22:24 Re: Re: [GENERAL] 9.4.1 -> 9.4.2 problem: could not access status of transaction 1

Browse pgsql-hackers by date

  From Date Subject
Next Message Craig Ringer 2015-06-03 13:00:25 Re: auto_explain sample rate
Previous Message Robert Haas 2015-06-03 12:22:24 Re: Re: [GENERAL] 9.4.1 -> 9.4.2 problem: could not access status of transaction 1