Re: When to drop src/tools/msvc support

From: Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org>
To: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)alvh(dot)no-ip(dot)org>, Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com>, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net>, "Jonathan S(dot) Katz" <jkatz(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Peter Geoghegan <pg(at)bowt(dot)ie>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: When to drop src/tools/msvc support
Date: 2023-04-10 18:55:35
Message-ID: CA+OCxoxCZ2Q4vz0oznYqDgU4aZYv0GXO4TytkD070OjUp0OJeQ@mail.gmail.com
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On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 at 18:34, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 12:56 PM Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
> > Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> writes:
> > > However, if this is the direction we're going, we probably need to
> > > give pgsql-packagers a heads up ASAP, because anybody who is still
> > > relying on the MSVC system to build Windows binaries is presumably
> > > going to need some time to adjust. If we rip out the build system
> > > somebody is using a couple of weeks before beta, that might make it
> > > difficult for that person to get the beta out promptly. And I think
> > > there's probably more than just EDB who would be in that situation.
> >
> > Oh ... that's a good point. Is there anyone besides EDB shipping
> > MSVC-built executables? Would it even be practical to switch to
> > meson with a month-or-so notice? Seems kind of tight, and it's
> > not like the packagers volunteered to make this switch.
>
> I can't really speak to those questions with confidence.
>
> Perhaps instead of telling pgsql-packagers what we're doing, we could
> instead ask them if it would work for them if we did XYZ. Then we
> could use that information to inform our decision-making.

Projects other than the EDB installers use the MSVC build system - e.g.
pgAdmin uses it’s own builds of libpq and other tools (psql, pg_dump etc)
that are pretty heavily baked into a fully automated build system (even the
build servers and all their requirements are baked into Ansible).

Changing that lot would be non-trivial, though certainly possible, and I
suspect we’re not the only ones doing that sort of thing.

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