Re: better support of out parameters in plperl

From: "Pavel Stehule" <pavel(dot)stehule(at)hotmail(dot)com>
To: bruce(at)momjian(dot)us, andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net
Cc: pgsql-patches(at)postgresql(dot)org, david(at)fetter(dot)org
Subject: Re: better support of out parameters in plperl
Date: 2007-02-09 05:22:03
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I'll look on it

>From: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
>To: Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net>
>CC: Pavel Stehule <pavel(dot)stehule(at)hotmail(dot)com>,
>pgsql-patches(at)postgresql(dot)org, david(at)fetter(dot)org
>Subject: Re: [PATCHES] better support of out parameters in plperl
>Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 18:09:18 -0500 (EST)
>
>
>This patch has been rejected based on comments just made by Andrew
>Dunstan. If the author wants to revisit that, please reply and we can
>discuss the issues.
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Andrew Dunstan wrote:
> >
> >
> > I wrote:
> > > Pavel Stehule wrote:
> > >> Hello,
> > >>
> > >> I send two small patches. First does conversion from perl to
> > >> postgresql array in OUT parameters. Second patch allow hash form
> > >> output from procedures with one OUT argument.
> > >>
> > >
> > > I will try to review these in the next 2 weeks unless someone beats me
> > > to it.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > I have reviewed this lightly, as committed by Bruce, and have some
> > concerns. Unfortunately, the deathof my main workstation has cost me
> > much of the time I intended to use for a more thorough review, so there
> > may well be more issues than are outlined here.
> >
> > First, it is completely undocumented.
> >
> > Second, this comment is at best confusing:
> >
> > /* if value is ref on array do to pg string array conversion */
> >
> >
> > Third, it appears to assume that we will have names for all OUT params.
>But names are optional, as I understand it. Arguably, we should be treating
>the returns positionally, and thus return an arrayref when there are OYT
>params, not a hashref, and ignore the names - after all, all perl function
>args are nameless, in fact, even if you use a naming convention to refer to
>them.
> >
> > Fourth, I don't understand the change: "allow hash form output from
>procedures with one OUT argument." That seems very non-orthogonal, and I
>can't see any good reason for it.
> >
> > Lastly, if you look at the expected output as committed,it appears to
>have been prepared without being actually examined, for example:
> >
> >
> > CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION test05(OUT a varchar) AS $$
> > return {a=>'ahoj'};
> > $$ LANGUAGE plperl;
> > SELECT '05' AS i,a FROM test05();
> > i | a
> > ----+-----------------
> > 05 | HASH(0x8558f9c)
> > (1 row)
> >
> >
> > what???
> >
> > And now that I look I see every buildfarm box broken on PLCheck. That's
>no surprise at all.
> >
> >
> > The conversation regarding these features appears only to have started
>on July 28th, which was probably much too late given some of the issues.
>Unless we can solve these issues very fast I would be inclined to say this
>should be tabled for 8.3. I think this is a fairly good illustration of the
>danger of springing a feature, largely undiscussed, on the community just
>about freeze time.
> >
> > cheers
> >
> > andrew
>
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