Re: Proposal to shutdown pgFoundry

From: Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org>
To: Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net>
Cc: Stefan Kaltenbrunner <stefan(at)kaltenbrunner(dot)cc>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Devrim GÜNDÜZ <devrim(at)gunduz(dot)org>, PostgreSQL WWW <pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Proposal to shutdown pgFoundry
Date: 2011-05-20 17:38:20
Message-ID: BANLkTimxc-nO8Ya+rbzPm8vY_h4Q60NnbA@mail.gmail.com
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On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net> wrote:
> On Fri, May 20, 2011 12:20 pm, Stefan Kaltenbrunner wrote:
>> On 05/20/2011 11:43 AM, Tom Lane wrote:
>>> Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org> writes:
>>>> 2011/5/20 Devrim GÜNDÜZ <devrim(at)gunduz(dot)org>:
>>>>> When we shut it down, all projects will all go somewhere else, and
>>>>> that
>>>>> somewhere else might sound reliable to the people outside the
>>>>> community.
>>>>> That is the only concern of me. Getting rid of CVS is fine, and they
>>>>> can
>>>>> move their projects to git.postgresql.org, which would be excellent.
>>>>> Still, is there a simple way that PostgreSQL infrastructure team can
>>>>> provide hosting are for tarballs for ex-pgfoundry projects?
>>>
>>>> I think we'd want to try to avoid doing that as it would require
>>>> policing to ensure inappropriate content wasn't uploaded.
>>>
>>> ... yeah, that's a problem.
>>>
>>>> Plus, people can always use SourceForge for distribution.
>>>
>>> If you drive people to sourceforge for distribution, what value is there
>>> in git.postgresql.org?
>>>
>>> I need to figure out what to do with pg_filedump.  All I need for it
>>> is an SCM and someplace to put release tarballs.  I'd prefer to use
>>> git.postgresql.org, but if there's nowhere for tarballs, that's not
>>> going to work.
>>
>> hmm tarballs are a really good point, not sure what to do there -
>> provide some some minimal interface to push them to the mirror network
>> or do we need something more fancy?
>>
>>
>
> We need something. I need to be able to push buildfarm client tarballs
> too, so Tom's not the only person who needs this.

No, I don't expect he is. Like his work though, in my mind the
buildfarm is a "family" project that we could accomodate in other
ways.

> Even more importantly, the mailings lists on pgfoundry are a critical
> piece of the buildfarm infrastructure - that's how status notifications
> get out to people like Tom. We also need lists for commit notifications
> and members discussion.

Any reason we couldn't use the main list server for that?

> It's a pity GitHub doesn't have some of those extra features.

True.

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