Re: Replication references

From: Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>
To: Jasmin Dizdarevic <jasmin(dot)dizdarevic(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org>, Guillaume Lelarge <guillaume(at)lelarge(dot)info>, Peter Geoghegan <peter(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, pgadmin-hackers <pgadmin-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Replication references
Date: 2011-06-27 19:41:23
Message-ID: BANLkTim0Ow75kKw2LXMcW7eREe=DtDYASQ@mail.gmail.com
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Certainly works for me, so something is wrong for you. Did you
rebuild? Could be a dependency miss o rsomething..

//magnus

On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 21:25, Jasmin Dizdarevic
<jasmin(dot)dizdarevic(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> Hi,
> I thought it should be "Slony Replication" in the tree, but the latest
> master-build show's: "Replication"?
> Am I doing wrong, or is this wanted?
>
>
> 2011/6/26 Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 19:52, Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org> wrote:
>> > On Sunday, June 26, 2011, Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net> wrote:
>> >> On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 19:10, Guillaume Lelarge
>> >> <guillaume(at)lelarge(dot)info> wrote:
>> >>> On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 11:41 +0200, Magnus Hagander wrote:
>> >>>> On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 00:07, Guillaume Lelarge
>> >>>> <guillaume(at)lelarge(dot)info> wrote:
>> >>>> > On Wed, 2011-06-22 at 18:10 +0200, Magnus Hagander wrote:
>> >>>> >> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 18:03, Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org>
>> >>>> >> wrote:
>> >>>> >> > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Magnus Hagander
>> >>>> >> > <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net> wrote:
>> >>>> >> >> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 23:45, Peter Geoghegan
>> >>>> >> >> <peter(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> wrote:
>> >>>> >> >>> On 20 June 2011 21:40, Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>
>> >>>> >> >>> wrote:
>> >>>> >> >>>> Hi!
>> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> I know we've  had some discussions around what to do with the
>> >>>> >> >>>> Slony
>> >>>> >> >>>> support.. But it's there now, and IIRC the deal was we keep
>> >>>> >> >>>> it.
>> >>>> >> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>> That was the deal. FWIW, I consider our Slony support to be
>> >>>> >> >>> less than
>> >>>> >> >>> useless, in that it is basically a GUI analogue to writing a
>> >>>> >> >>> long
>> >>>> >> >>> Slonik script full of apparently redundant entries.
>> >>>> >> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> I would, however, suggest that we rename it to actually be
>> >>>> >> >>>> "slony
>> >>>> >> >>>> replication" rather than "replication". Or "Use slony" rather
>> >>>> >> >>>> than
>> >>>> >> >>>> "Use replication". Calling it "replication" without
>> >>>> >> >>>> qualifying it
>> >>>> >> >>>> causes confusion to many users (came across it with a client
>> >>>> >> >>>> just
>> >>>> >> >>>> today, and it's not the first time).
>> >>>> >> >>>>
>> >>>> >> >>>> I realize we're fairly close to release - is this doable for
>> >>>> >> >>>> 1.14, or
>> >>>> >> >>>> will that fsck things up for translators?
>> >>>> >> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>> +1
>> >>>> >> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>> It isn't that hard to translate a few strings into all
>> >>>> >> >>> supported
>> >>>> >> >>> languages. If a translator isn't available to translate those
>> >>>> >> >>> few
>> >>>> >> >>> strings (and they'd have to not be answering any e-mail for
>> >>>> >> >>> that to be
>> >>>> >> >>> the case, and it will take them less than 5 minutes), that's
>> >>>> >> >>> likely to
>> >>>> >> >>> be in a language that isn't so widely spoken  - it certainly
>> >>>> >> >>> won't be
>> >>>> >> >>> French or German. I'd be willing to live with a poor machine
>> >>>> >> >>> translation for a little while for those languages. If someone
>> >>>> >> >>> complains, the complaint is likely to be all we need to fix
>> >>>> >> >>> the
>> >>>> >> >>> problem ourselves.
>> >>>> >> >>>
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> So, something like this. I went with calling the field inthe
>> >>>> >> >> dialogs
>> >>>> >> >> "Use Slony" rather than "Use Slony replication", simply because
>> >>>> >> >> the
>> >>>> >> >> second option is very long - much much longer than anything
>> >>>> >> >> else
>> >>>> >> >> there, leading to a lot of wasted space.
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> Comments?
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> > It should be "Slony Replication" for the menu and the collection
>> >>>> >> > factory name, not "Slony replication". Otherwise it seems OK.
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> Agreed. Actually I thought I had fixed that already :D
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> > I would like to hear from Guillaume before breaking the
>> >>>> >> > translations though.
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> Yeah, I was planning to wait for his comment before committing
>> >>>> >> anything.
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > No problem with me. We have no updates to the translation yet, so
>> >>>> > that's
>> >>>> > not an issue.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Ok, applied.
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >> I wasn't planning to - do we really want to change the name of a node
>> >> in a minor release?
>> >
>> > No, but weren't you trying to get it into 1.14?
>>
>> Oh. Crap. Yes.
>>
>> I need to pay more attention :O
>>
>>
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