Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Improve corner cases in pg_ctl's new wait-for-postmaster-startup

From: Fujii Masao <masao(dot)fujii(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Improve corner cases in pg_ctl's new wait-for-postmaster-startup
Date: 2011-06-01 04:24:09
Message-ID: BANLkTikOwTEZYoYUq9jDC5HeA73BoSjMGg@mail.gmail.com
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On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
>> To address this corner
>> case, we should check whether postmaster is really running by sending
>> the signal 0 after we read postmater.pid file? Attached patch does that.
>
> I find myself unimpressed by this approach, because it supposes that the
> postmaster got as far as creating postmaster.pid.

Sorry, I could not understand the reason why you were unimpressed.
Could you explain it in a little more detail?

> My preference for fixing this would be to arrange for the postmaster to
> be the direct child of pg_ctl, so that we could watch for SIGCHLD to
> detect premature postmaster exit.  Right now that doesn't work because
> we are invoking an intermediate shell via system(), but I think that
> could be avoided with a bit more effort (ie, an explicit fork and exec).
> Not sure how that all translates into Windows-ville, though.

Yeah, it sounds difficult to implement that for Windows. pg_ctl might
need to invoke the thread for receiving the SIGCHLD, like the server
does.

Regards,

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Fujii Masao
NIPPON TELEGRAPH AND TELEPHONE CORPORATION
NTT Open Source Software Center

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