Re: MMAP Buffers

From: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: Radosław Smogura <rsmogura(at)softperience(dot)eu>, Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net>, Greg Stark <gsstark(at)mit(dot)edu>, Greg Smith <greg(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Joshua Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net>, Heikki Linnakangas <heikki(dot)linnakangas(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, PG Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: MMAP Buffers
Date: 2011-04-17 20:01:55
Message-ID: BANLkTi=A0k2zbo5jdXctr0ZEv0EVVo7pgQ@mail.gmail.com
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On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
> =?utf-8?q?Rados=C5=82aw_Smogura?= <rsmogura(at)softperience(dot)eu> writes:
>> Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> Sunday 17 April 2011 01:35:45
>>> ... Huh?  Are you saying that you ask the kernel to map each individual
>>> shared buffer separately?  I can't believe that's going to scale to
>>> realistic applications.
>
>> No, I do
>> mrempa(mmap_buff_A, MAP_FIXED, temp);
>> mremap(shared_buff_Y, MAP_FIXED, mmap_buff_A),
>> mrempa(tmp, MAP_FIXED, mmap_buff_A).
>
> There's no mremap() in the Single Unix Spec, nor on my ancient HPUX box,
> nor on my quite-up-to-date OS X box.  The Linux man page for it says
> "This call is Linux-specific, and should not be used in programs
> intended to be portable."  So if the patch is dependent on that call,
> it's dead on arrival from a portability standpoint.
>
> But in any case, you didn't explain how use of mremap() avoids the
> problem of the kernel having to maintain a separate page-mapping-table
> entry for each individual buffer.  (Per process, yet.)  If that's what's
> happening, it's going to be a significant performance penalty as well as
> (I suspect) a serious constraint on how many buffers can be managed.

I share your suspicions, although no harm in measuring it.

But I don't understand is how this approach avoids the problem of
different processes seeing different buffer contents. If backend A
has the buffer mmap'd and backend B wants to modify it (and changes
the mapping), backend A is still looking at the old buffer contents,
isn't it? And then things go boom.

--
Robert Haas
EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company

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