Re: Feature Request: SQL parameters

From: Pavel Stehule <pavel(dot)stehule(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Eric Schwarzenbach <subscriber(at)blackbrook(dot)org>
Cc: pgadmin-support(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Feature Request: SQL parameters
Date: 2011-03-19 17:52:54
Message-ID: AANLkTinPQxUm0b=A+NA0mCgFU9pXjSqY83pCVOo6bjgg@mail.gmail.com
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2011/3/19 Eric Schwarzenbach <subscriber(at)blackbrook(dot)org>:
> On 3/19/2011 12:21 PM, Pavel Stehule wrote:
>>
>> 2011/3/19 Eric Schwarzenbach<subscriber(at)blackbrook(dot)org>:
>>>
>>> On , Sat, 05 Mar 2011 20:39:53 +0100, Guillaume wrote
>>>>
>>>> Le 03/03/2011 00:03, Eric Schwarzenbach a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>>  Some years ago I worked with another DB tool, for another DB that
>>>>>  offered support for SQL parameters in a way that was extremely handy.
>>>>>  I've missed this feature in pgAdmin ever since. By SQL parameters, I
>>>>>  mean the replaceable bits one puts as ? in a prepared statement.
>>>>>
>>>>>  When testing / debugging sql from application code, it is a major
>>>>>  annoyance to have to constantly find and replace these ?'s. I forget
>>>>>  exactly how the feature in the other tool worked...it may have
>>>>> actually
>>>>>  detected the ?'s and prompted you for values the moment you tried to
>>>>>  execute it. But the important thing was that it allowed you to leave
>>>>> the
>>>>>  ?'s in the query, and gave you a place to fill in the parameter values
>>>>>  to be used when you execute it. This may not sound like much on the
>>>>>  surface, but makes an enormous difference. It:
>>>>>
>>>>>  * avoids having to hunt down the ? in a large complex query
>>>>>  * keeps your query looking more as it appears in your source code (and
>>>>>  you can more easily paste it back in after you've modified it in
>>>>> pgadmin)
>>>>>  * keeps you from losing track of where the ?s were before you replaced
>>>>> them
>>>>>  * is handier for testing out different values for the parameters.
>>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure I understand what you would like to have. That pgAdmin asks
>>>> for values anytime it encounters a question mark in a query?
>>>
>>> Sorry if I was a bit vague. I figured there might be a number of UI
>>> approaches to handling this, some of which might be easier or harder
>>> given
>>> pgadmin facilities, and didn't want to my request to get bogged down in
>>> Hows
>>> rather than Whats, but maybe they are necessary to convey the idea.
>>>
>>> I'll sketch out  a few ways I can see it working:
>>>
>>> The main feature I'm looking for is a way to let the user supply a list
>>> of
>>> values to be used to replace the ?'s when executing the query. Now if
>>> pgAdmin could detect the ?'s and prompt the user to use this facility,
>>> all
>>> the better, but this isn't strictly necessary. The user, knowing he has
>>> ?'s
>>> in his query could manually open the dialog or panel or whatever for
>>> entering parameter values (for the sake of argument I'll suppose it is a
>>> panel, the "parameter panel". The important thing is being able to enter
>>> the
>>> values in some more central location rather than hunting through what may
>>> be
>>> many lines of SQL. The effect should be that the SQL in the editor pane
>>> remains unchanged, with the ?'s in place, but when you execute your query
>>> PgAdmin replaces them with the values you have entered in the parameter
>>> panel.
>>>
>>> The How of the interface for entering them is probably important for how
>>> easy this is in the use case I have in mind (debugging application code
>>> SQL), but may be dependent on the tools the user is using. Perhaps
>>> several
>>> options could be provided. For my own case, debugging Java in Eclipse., I
>>> can generally copy the parameters out of the list in the debugger in the
>>> form of a comma separated list. So the ability to simply paste in this
>>> list
>>> would be ideal for me. I don't know how ideal this would be for other
>>> users
>>> using other debuggers, but perhaps others will give input here.
>>>
>>> A small feature that would be really sweet, as part of this, would be is
>>> pgAdmin were able to highlight a given ? in the SQL when you select a
>>> given
>>> parameter in the parameter panel.
>>>
>> using $n notation can be more faster and simpler for implementation -
>> and practic, because programmer can check a prepared statements or
>> parametrised queries in pgAdmin.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Pavel Stehule
>>
> I don't believe this $n notation is supported in JDBC prepared statements.

There isn't only JDBC - libpq support it.

Pavel
>
> Eric
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